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Old 22-05-2018, 08:42 AM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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Default Anthracnose on my vines!

In message , Jeff Layman
writes

On 21/05/18 20:54, David Rance wrote:


In message , Jeff Layman
writes


On 21/05/18 16:41, David Rance wrote:
Can anyone tell me if Mancozeb or Captan are still available or have
they been banned by the EU?
For the first time I seem to have a bad infection of anthracnose on
my
vines. Advice on treatment seems contradictory. Some say that sulphur
treatments work, others say they don't! Today I've sprayed with Bordeaux
Mixture but I'm not convinced of its efficacy.
David

Neither mancozeb nor captan are approved for home use.


But I always used Dithane which is 70% Mancozeb (according to the
empty
packet I have here).

Bordeaux Mixture is also not approved (was it an old container you
use?),


Bordeaux Mixture is still readily available here in France.


I forgot that you were in France. Of course, the French have always
interpreted EU law to suit themselves. I think you will find that
Bordeaux Mixture is not approved in the EU for *amateur* use. But it
still may be for professional growers, and I understand that there are
a few of those growing vines in France.


Yes, it has been banned but there was such an uproar from vine growers
that the last I heard was that they were going to rethink the ban. I
wouldn't be surprised if the same weren't true in Germany. I can well
remember staying in a wine area on the Mosel some years ago where they
had alerts for when mildews were about to strike and a light plane would
go back and forth along the banks of the river spraying Bordeaux
Mixture. Having suffered peronospora (downy mildew) myself on my tiny,
tiny vineyard I can testify to its destructive power where, if not
treated, one loses the whole crop.

I'm in Normandy which is not a wine growing area and so it was several
years before peronospora struck here. But if I were living in a wine
growing area I could be prosecuted for *not* spraying.

When you say "readily available", do you mean that in the sense of what
we would call a garden centre (or maybe supermarket) here, or is it an
agricultural merchant selling in larger quantities?


Both!

However, I'm now stuck with another disease which threatens my whole
crop and I have nothing left with which to fight it. Can you suggest a
substitute?

In case I've misdiagnosed, here is a photo of an affected leaf:

http://www.rance.org.uk/chameau/anthracnose.jpg

David

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David Rance writing from Le Mesnil Villement, Calvados, France