On 21/10/2019 18:46, David Hill wrote:
On 21/10/2019 17:59, Another John wrote:
In article ,
Â* Martin Brown wrote:

On 18/10/2019 22:07, Another John wrote:
OP here ...

Â*Â* Stewart, and Jeff, and Jim wrote

[various things -- much appreciated, so far, folks!]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/5Ebgj4oWNHEwXkdi9

I would add that you can't really appreciate the fleshiness of the stem
of Plant AÂ* (which had me leaning towards evening primrose), and I
would
point out the bronze stems of Plant B which, again, may not be
especially obvious in those photos.

Both plants are very proliferous in their foliage, as well as height.

And presumably volunteers that just appeared in the garden from seed.

My initial guess for the left hand one was a poke weed but the leaf
veins are not quite right. Life would be made so much easier if you
could persuade either of them to flower.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytol...ature_Pokeweed

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It will flower in the UK and sometimes comes in with the birds.

I didn't actually realise, before, but you can enlarge the photos
(didn't notice the magnifying glass, top right when you've clicked on a
photo).

Finally: hmm - we _do_ feed the birds a lot: rogue bird seeds?

Quite likely the question is which component of the mix.

Thanks Martin - I thought you were on t something there when I saw the
first picture of pokeweed, with its purple stalks ... but it's not that.
Thank goodness!Â* Sounds like a right nasty plant -- I like this bit from
the Wikipedia entry : "The leaves and stems of very young plants can
both be eaten, but must be cooked, usually boiled three times in fresh
water each time."Â*Â*Â*Â* It always gives me pause for thought, to reflect
that for most of human history, people have eaten (had to eat)Â* whatever
they could find ... and that some poor sods found out the hard way how
their descendants needed to prepare certain foods!

The hunt goes on: I had another look at the blighters today, and No: not
a sign of buds on either, and so they're going to kick the bucket in the
next few weeks without ever having told us us what they are!

John

Just a note. If the second one is a type of species Dahlia then it may
NOT have tubers, some varieties just have fleshy roots, but after the
first frost I would cut it back and lift it carefully to store somewhere
frost free.
Who knows next year it may flower and supprise us all.

Not realy related but I found this clip of interest and a form of dahlia
I had never heard sbout before
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klR3SFK48PQ