On 23/07/2020 14:29, Martin Brown wrote:
On 23/07/2020 02:42, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 22/07/2020 22:42, Martin Brown wrote:

A sadder case was the poor unfortunate Russian scientist who found
the first self catalysing redox clock reaction that flew in the face
of normal chemical theory as it was known at the time. Unable to get
it published other than in an obscure Russian journal he eventually
gave up working as a scientist and never lived to see it become world
famous in the 1970's. He was unlucky and well ahead of his time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belous...insky_reaction

Wegeners continental drift was another good idea that was ridiculed
at first but ultimately the mass of evidence overwhelmed his critics.

https://ucmp.berkeley.edu/history/wegener.html

On the other foot we have Lysenkoism, phrenology, Eugenics, Racial
theory, Piltdown Man and Climate Change, all massively popular
theories because they fitted a particular social and political
narrative, that turned out to be utter bunk...

Climate change deniers are invariably working for fossil fuel companies
and using exactly the same doubt and uncertainty tactics as they did to
keep the dumb punters smoking tobacco.

Indeed. Al Gore and the NYT are using exactrlyt these tactics to deny
the science - which basically proves that climate change is nothing to
do with CO2 - in order to increase the price and government control of
energy and benefit the fossil fuel companies - Al Gore was working fror
Enron and trying to promote gas over coal as Enron had serious gas
interests at that time when he made 'an inconvenient truth' - which
was, of course, actually a really convenient lie.

You only have to follow the money
to see which side is science and which is utter bunkum "supported" by
deniers for hire working for various US rightwing "think tanks".


Precisely so. The renewable industry and climate change in general is a
multi trillion dollar industry now based on utterly bogus 'science'.
CO2 has been rising monotonically since the 1960s, but climate change
more or less stopped in the year 2000, and certainly hasn't been rising
monotonically since, despite all the attempts to 'correct' the data to
make it so. Ergo the core assumption that all or the vast majority of
late 20th century warming is due to CO2 is refuted utterly and
completely. The real denial is by those who refuse to face these facts
and maintain that CO2 is teh major and on;y important 'cause' of
temperature change, when the geological record shows that actually
climate change is the major cause of rising CO2 levels as the oceans
outgas...and it wasn't burning fossil fuels that led to the end of the
'little ice age',and nor is the recorded fact of vineyards in Denmark
and Sweden in the Roman warm period indicative of it being 'warmer than
all recorded history' now...nor are records of the 1912 (or was in 1920)
ice free North West passage indicative that Arctic ice has never been
this low, nor is it a convenient truth that there are more polar bears
in the Arctic than at any time in recorded memory...

There is a huge conspiracy to deny the reality of climate change, but it
is coming from the Left and from people making trillions out of energy

And you are part of it - just another 'useful idiot; who drunk their
koolaid.

There are of course no 'right wing think tanks' - it's another
invention of climate change fraudsters



The rest of them I agree with you are pure anti-science.

Though it is beginning to look like there is a race based genetic
component to susceptibility to novel coronavirus Covid-19. It could be
as simple as having a dark skin at high latitude or being a sickle cell
anaemia carrier but it may well be something more subtle from way back.


Golly, a closet racist?~

The recent genomic sequencing paper suggests that one risk factor comes
from our Neanderthal ancestors through a variation on gene 3.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...07.03.186296v1

Whereas pure homo sapiens directly from Africa does not have this.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...07.03.186296v1

It is the first working hypothesis that more or less correlates with the
observed death rates experienced in various countries around the globe.

The other is ABO blood group related and seems to be confirmed now that
having any A antibodies is bad for you and being blood group O is best.



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