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I always thought those shiny, pointy, brown coloured thingies were
leatherjackets (they do rather look the part), but from previous urg
threads I gathered they probably are moth pupae.
Here's a site with some goodies and baddies which might help identify the
creatures concerned. Still don't know what a crane-fly pupa looks like,
though.

Since I was knee-high to a grasshopper I've known the shiny
conker-coloured pupæ as leatherjackets, but all my dictionaries say
leatherjackets the larvæ.

So then I think, are the grubs I've always presumed were their
antecedants crane-fly grubs at all? They remind me neither of leather
nor a jacket, whereas the conker-coloured pupa does - of both. (My
mother and grandmother, and my father all referred to that pupa as a
leatherjacket.)

Next one I find I'm going to keep until it breaks out!

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