Theo Asir wrote:
"Cass" wrote

Chevy Chase (forms a huge shrub here, easy to start in the fall)

Is this a fend for itself shrub?

Yes, but it will turn into a thicket. 15 ft. canes are the norm, about
15 per year.

Darlow's Enigma (Very unusual plant, species-hybrid looking,
growing like a weed)

not quite tree eater. Do you know if its patented? I could root a
cutting.

It's a found rose, not patented. Sequoia sells it cheap. Don't know how
early you'd need to buy it to get it ready for winter. Beautiful
foliage, darkest possible narrow green, reminds me of rubrifolia. You
need it, so get 2.