Me wrote:

My rose plants have not been producing good roses this year. It
looks like they are brownish on the outside.

Before they bloom, while they bloom, they look 20% dead.

I am not quite sure what you mean by that last sentence.

One store sold me generic disease control, one store said it looks
fine, and another store said although he couldn't find any thrips, it
had all the symptoms.

I'd tend to believe the last person, because he sold me on a product
his store didn't carry and sent me to another store. He had a pebble
based systemic solution that would take long to take effect and
suggest I go to another store and buy the liquid Ortho systemic.

I have a picture of one of the roses at
http://home.earthlink.net/~cenews/garden/

I can email other pictures if anyone would like to take a closer
look. I had a hard time getting the first on the web site.

To my eyes, it looks like rain damage, even as Cass had suggested that
you consider the possibility. As she says your foliage looks very
healthy, at least in that picture.

I have eight different rose plants in my front yard and all have hte
same symptons. I live in the San Fernando Valley Foothills in L.A.

You might consider talking to one of your local ARS Consulting
Rosarians. They have no commercial affiliations when they help folks
with their rose questions, are well-trained and do all of this as a
service to community, charging no fees. Here is a link:

http://www.geocities.com/sfvroses/te...rosarians.html

In fact, one of the CRs for your area, Jim Delahanty, is normally a
frequent poster on this forum though we have not heard from him in a
while here, must be a little too busy with Spring Rose Shows or something.

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Radika
California
USDA 9 / Sunset 15