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Old 17-05-2003, 10:32 PM
Marty Haber
 
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Default [IBC] A Talmudic Disagreement

Bonkei, while obviously an overlapping term, usually has man-made objects
included in the design.... houses, boats, pagodas, etc. Saikei (as Bill
points out, is a derivitive of bonkei) may also include these objects, but
not as dominent elements of the subject matter. If you re-examine
Kawamoto's book, you will find some designs with dominent rocks and others
with dominent trees, but few, if any, with man-made objects.
Marty
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From: "Iris Cohen"
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Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 11:06 AM
Subject: [IBC] A Talmudic Disagreement


According to the school of Rabbi Yuji Yoshimura, what we call in English a

tray
landscape is a bonkei. According to the school of Rabbi Toshio Kawamoto, a
more-or-less permanent arrangement of trees, rocks, and accessory plants

is a
saikei (the word was coined about 30 years ago). We usually call these in
English a tray landscape.
A Chinese penjing is something else. We usually give that name to a
land-and-water arrangement in the style of Quing Quang Zao.
My understanding is that a bonkei is a temporary landscape made up of

twigs,
unrooted cuttings, and herbaceous plants. Does anybody have any further
information or opinion on this? What do you call these in other European
languages?
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
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