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Old 19-05-2003, 02:09 AM
Jim Webster
 
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Default UK farm profitability to jun 2002


Dave Roberts wrote in message
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In article , Jim Webster
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Oh come off it Jim !

Working outdoors whatever the
weather,

Many would welcome that, change it for an office job if you don't like
it.


I have an office job, we worked out Brenda and I spend 200hrs a year on
just dealing with livestock movement etc.


the 24 hrs on call,

I've been on 24 hour call for the vast majority of my working life, so
what ?


not usual for an employee. Remember torsten is comparing farmers with
employees. Certainly in ship building which is the common employer in
this town, if you are on call, you are amply rewarded.


no weekends off,

I worked every weekend for years. When I got fed up with it I changed
what I do. I still work some weekend days. I'll be out working this
Sunday while your tucked up in the warm having your Sunday lunch.

no paid holidays,

Same for every self employed person in the country, why should you be
special.


but remember you are just backing up my point with torsten. He is
comparing farmers with employees. Self employed do not compare with
employees. I've snipped the other self employed comparisons, I agree
with them, but it is torsten who doesn't appear to understand it.




roads poorly maintained,

Try rural Lincolnshire !!!!

poor electricity
supply,

We are supplied by overhead lines. Regular power cuts although things
have improved lately. No big deal.

remember we are talking about trying to put a cash figure on quality of
life, everyone puffs the up side, I just brought the down side in to
keep a sense of balance.

Don't forget you pay exactly the same for your electricity as folk in
urban areas yet it costs far more to deliver the supply to your home.
You're on a winner there, I feel quite grateful that in effect my

supply
is being subsidised by town dwellers.


not especially, I'm the one who gets nominal compensation for the hassle
I have farming round the poles that carry their electric to them. I
always reckoned that that cancels out.

poor telephone connection,

I have the same moan, mainly that I can't get broad band. Normal

service
here is acceptable.

Don't forget you pay exactly the same for your phone as folk in urban
areas yet it costs far more to deliver the service to your home. I

feel
quite grateful that in effect my service is being subsidised by town
dwellers.


no, because the majority of people who phone me are town dwellers. They
are merely paying to get national coverage.


Same applies to postal services, this morning some poor sod had to

drive
miles through ice and snow to drop my mail off and impressively he was
on time. Yet the price of a stamp to get a letter to my home is

exactly
the same as a stamp to deliver a letter in the centre of a city/town

but
the costs are far greater.

the fact that if you want to go
anywhere at all there is no viable public transport and you have to

have
a car.

But than you do have the benefit of living in a beautiful part of the
world which many would be envious of.


Yes, everyone fights for the right to live a mile from the countries
largest natural gas terminal, three miles from a ship yard building
nuclear submarines and in spite of that we have no usable public
transport.


I live where I do because I love it. Whinging about the disadvantages
isn't something that enters the equation. If I get fed up with it I
change it.

You have exactly the same option.


As I said, I was pointing out the down sides to balance up what everyone
hypes up.

--
Jim Webster

"The pasture of stupidity is unwholesome to mankind"

'Abd-ar-Rahman b. Muhammad b. Khaldun al-Hadrami'