Some of us will even post a little bit of quoted information so everyone
else can tell what they are talking about.

Sorry, there wasn't anything to quote. I guess you didn't see it. Somebody sent
a message with the subject Need help identufying this... When I opened it there
was nothing but a blank page with an attachment to be downloaded. Hence the
reply.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
train."
Robert Lowell (1917-1977)