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Old 20-05-2003, 05:44 AM
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Default The dangers of weed killers - Glyphostae aka Roundup, the hidden killer.

Victor Meldrew writes

What news on soya milk would that be?


Some quotes:

1) From Oz, but quoting Torsten, on degradeability of glyphosate
protection genes:

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From: Oz )


Subject: Genetically engineered food
Newsgroups: alt.agriculture.misc, alt.sustainable.agriculture,
sci.agriculture


View this article only
Date: 1997/10/09

In article , Torsten Brinch -
c.dk writes
Nice flower you have there Oz. Natural?
Sorry to disturb, while you are making these important points.

A news item, that ticked in. Really nothing, just Madness.


Really good stuff. It shows that (despite apprearances ho, ho) Torsten
is still a logical scientist (at least on occasiona.) :-)

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ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY

40 CFR Part 180

[OPP-300552; FRL-5745-2]
RIN 2070-AB78


NB Snips all over the place.

Both variants of the GOX protein (GOX and GOXv247) are rapidly
degraded in simulated gastric fluid (GF) and simulated intestinal fluid
(IF). After a fifteen-second incubation in GF, both variants have less
than 90% of their initial protein epitopes by western blot analysis.
Enzyme activity loss is also greater than 90% in both GOX variants when
assayed after a 1-minute incubation in GF. Similar results are seen in
simulated IF. Western blot assays show that both variants are greater
than 90% degraded by 30-second incubation in IF. However, the enzyme
activity assays show that the GOX activity lasts longer in IF than
variant GOXv247. After a 10-minute IF incubation, the activity
decreased to about 48% of initial for GOX whereas GOXv247 was already
greater than 90% inactive.
Two findings, found in the in vitro digestibility studies, that are
remarkable a GOXv247 displays a more rapid degradation in the IF
compared to unaltered GOX, apparently due to the single amino acid
substitutions; and antibody recognition is lost prior to a significant
loss of enzyme activity indicating that western blots may not always
accurately track functional protein degradation.


OK, so it's very quickly and readily digested. I am hardly amazed.

The acute oral toxicity test of bacterially-derived GOX and GOXv247
proteins showed no test substance related deaths at doses of 91.3
milligrams per kilogram (mg/kg) and 104 greek-mg/kg respectively.
Expression data on the GOX protein expressed in corn grains ranges from
undetectable levels to a high of 11.70 micro grams per gram (mg/g)
freshweight. This indicates that it would require 8,547 kg corn grain
per kg bodyweight to receive the 100 mg/kg dose that was administered
to the mice.


OK, it's highly non-toxic as well as rapidly degraded. Hey, what more do
you want? Heck the estrogens in the soya are probably thousands (maybe
more) of times more hazardous.

Seems like Oz & Tracy were pretty well spot on except we didn't assume
quite such a spectacularly safe product.

Thanks Torsten, you are a gentleman. This has progressed the knowledge
in the group.
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