In article 352481b00166821eefb8dcf0971797aa@TeraNews, Shiva
wrote:

This came up in another thread, and deserves one of its very own.

Of the hundred or so roses I grow, the white ones are the worst for
getting really ugly really fast on the bush. The worst is Sombrueil,
the blooms of which in a few days wind up a ratty, flaking brown that
I cannot deadhead because it, in its third year, has grown twelve feet
up into the mature holly hedge that borders one side of that garden,
and I cannot reach them.

Iceberg is pretty ugly too when it's done blooming. But you're right,
Sombreuil really sucks. Glendora aka Joasine Hanet is terrific that way
- petals just crisp up and blow away.