"Daniel B. Wheeler" wrote in message
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Clear Cut wrote in message
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If you are interested in US statistics, spend some quality time
with:


For a world wide perspective, explore the Food and Agriculture
Organization of the United Nations. You can generate your own tables
from thier database:

http://apps.fao.org/


LOL, sorry, "you're" the one who has fallen for the depletion crisis.
To rationally decide there is a "depletion" problem, one must have
mathematically determined so, to not mathematically produce this
evidence means you've just listened to someones end of the world
scenario, and bought into it irrationally.

A more detailed analysis translates as "more unactionable information,
for which the provider of such information benefits finacially", sorry
son, but i pay for goods and sevices that i consider worthy of my
expenditure.



FAO is ONE source of information. Their data indicate significant
conversion of forest and woodlands over the last 30 years. That is a lot
of hectares and a strong indicator of a global problem. The FIA analysis
indicates a general loss of forest and woodland acerage in most regions
of the US mostly due to conversion to other agricultural uses and
development for housing. In my experience there is precious little
aforestation - I rarely see housing developments, pastures, or vineyards
revert to forest.
Another significant source of forest depletion is seldom considered,
but profound: highways. The state of Oregon by itself has enough
highways and logging roads to go around the world 3 times. USFS is
closing off many of these roads, and given time, it is possible that
at least some will be reclaimed as forest lands. But worldwide, the
opposite is true.

BTW, the original post does not address the facts described by J.
Russell Smith in the 1930's. Smith stated, in part that forestry as
currently practiced (then) in the United States (and many other
countries as well) is "First the saw, then the plow, then move on when
the soil is gone."


Right, nobody in the logging industry wants to admit the severity of the
problem of high grading- which is far worse than clearcutting. I LOVE
LOGGING- so that's not an issue with me, but I want to see it done right-
and, the vast majority of logging in the Northeast is done without a
forester actually practicing forestry as described in forestry schools-
leave trees not financially mature- develop stands well suited to a site- do
thinings of poor quality trees first, etc.- all standard stuff, all too rare
in the Northeast. And if you want visual proof, go to my web site on high
grading at http://www.forestmeister.com/high-grading/. That was a forest,
which I had written a mgt. plan on- owned by a huge family. One member of
which didn't like me on a personal basis, the rest did. So, he forced the
family into hiring another forester, who did not follow the plan which
called for an "improvement cut"- instead he pillaged the place. Later that
guy confronted me and try to intimidate me- I don't intimidate easily- he
blaimed on the owner, as all forest rapists do- "landowner rights" but I
finally got him to admit that he f****** up. I had already done several
harvests for that family and those stands are terrific shape ready to be
done again- the one he did is wasted for 75 years. The owners never "made me
do it" as they made him do it. Yuh, if you really argue with forests
rapists, they'll always finally admit they toasted the place, then blame the
owner. In 30 years, I've never had any owner "make me do it". Maybe the
devil made them do it. G




Daniel B. Wheeler
www.oregonwhitetruffles.com