#1 Dunno

#2 Probably a young cricket.

Andy

"Steve Harris" wrote in message
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#1

- About the same size and shape as a ladybird
- Likes same plants as ladybirds
- It's back appears slightly ridged
- More oval than a LB
- Some are grey with orange markings, others the reverse
- Markings are thin streaks across the body - look a bit like tiny
louvres
- Do not fly or crawl away if disturbed

#2

- About 5mm by 2
- Bright green
- Sits on broad bean leaves
- Long folded back legs
- Jumps when disturbed
- Plants have some 3mm round holes in the leaves

Thanks!

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com