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On 6 Jun 2003 02:05:42 -0500, (lms) wrote:

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http://home.earthlink.net/~cbernstei...ages/Flora.jpg

well there it is now. Cass, that's fairly obscene. No, it's really
obscene.
I wouldn't want to attract that much attention, it's scary.

Weird - you revel over 12 foot

Try 17 foot, maybe.

Sorry - didn't mean to belittle your grand achievement.

You're not sorry and you meant all words of all insults, but it's no
grand achievement of mine, I just planted it and watered it and occasionally
heaved great shovelsfull of horse manure way high in the air so when it came
down Mr. Lincoln could put it where he wanted it.



lanky sparse looking Mr. Lincolns

I think you and your like-minded heroine belong together. You know, I don't
take kindly to people being too critical of a plant about which one gardener
from Chicago once told me, in a state of purest awe, 'Roses don't grow like
this in Illinois'. It was July and it had... ***leaves.

Awwww pumpkin,

pumpkin. hahahaha.


I'm sorry that I ticked you off. It's just that the
picture you posted didn't portray the plant in a very good light. IOW,
it looked pretty ugly. Sort of like a larger version of my Touch of
Class, which I find a pretty ugly plant, structure wise.

What would you know about struc ture, you're still stuck in the hybrid tea
rut.


I had to cut at least 60 percent of this plant down just so I could walk
around it--I was having to walk to Dallas and then to El Paso and back just
to
get around it. I tolerated its 12 foot horizontals and then multiple 10 foot
verticals off those for many many years. I've always considered it nothing
less than majestic,

That's because, for you, bigger seems better.

Bigger is almost always better in all things roses. With new mini
introductions and at rose shows they have to beat them back with sticks.
You see, elemento, the word BIG is a STAPLE in rose catalogs and everywhere
else in life.
Much much better to have a BIG The Fair than a puny The Fairy, no?
Why just today I think I read the troll saying how much she like BIG, GORGEOUS
roses, you should know which post I'm talking about, you've had your nose there
for about a year now.


Which is why I was
surprised that you didn't fall all over yourself over Cass' picture.

I'm not surprised that you're surprised cause you are thick, you can't even
unnerstand it when I flat out say my comments were tongue in cheek.
Of course you read Cass' follow-up. Well, what she said...go with that one.


Oh wait, most of what you grow is sprawling and ungainly (to my eye
that is). There doesn't seem to be a place in your garden for a
well-shaped mass of blosso...ooops, I mean blooms. Of course, it's
hard to tell since most of the links to your roses on your website are
broken. Therefore, I have to rely on what you post here.

One, remember the hybrid tea rut, and to offer as a rebutt 96 pics of what's
blooming toDay! to the tripe you speak would be a waste of my time.
But I've been doing that anyway. With my cheap digi cam. I don't much like
it.
Two, none of my rose pic links, few that nthey are currently, are broken. The
pics I post here go in the same directory as those on my website, sometimes I
link them there, sometimes I don't.
Some people let Netscape's cache control them instead of the other way around.
Or Internet Exploder, same difference.


and almost every new person who's ever seen it has had some
kind of reaction. Recently the New Jersey unit's comments on this grope
were
a case in point.
Being too critical of King Abraham is akin to talking to your Queen Mother
about gravity.

Weird. You go ballistic over a plant that *I* happen to like and only
because of its NAME. How weird is that?

How is that weird, the world revolves around words that give off bad vibes.
You have a strange idea of ballistic.


And then of course my rain forest grew up, this has had some effect, but less
on this one than some others. I wouldn't trade my rain forest for all of
Portland, don't get me wrong.


but
you wouldn't want *this* plant - which has obviously grown to be what
it wants to be, which is a huge plant overloaded with blossoms?

'blossoms', I have always thought, is a very feminine term.
I don't have blossoms. bcd uses this term all the time, makes me cringe
every
time I hear it. How do these things happen?

Maybe you need to embrace your feminine side.

I embrace my feminine side plenty enough, I'm growing five clitoria this
season.



BTW, whether you like it or not, you've got blossoms.

No blossoms. Blooms. Flaures too.

Look it up. And
your not-so-subtle reference to my sexuality is noted. But I'm man
enough to just laugh it off.

I'd suggest the ACLU but I've demonstrated time and again I don't give a
sheeeeeit whether you're a he a she or an it.
Blossom is what you would call a pig, or maybe some farmer's daughter, like
in some joke maybe.



Well, different strokes I suppose...

Weil, a properly grown Mr. Lincoln ain't for everyone, agreed. I guess I
have
to spell it out, how firmly was my tongue planted in my cheek?
Is that enough of a hint?

When was your tongue planted in your cheek - the way you describe Mr.
Lincoln?

Oh, so you *did know I was talking about Cass' rose. Yet you refuse to admit
it and hassle me anyway. Rock on, dude. rgr 2003, maaaaaan. Why we
got 'Hate' threads now, and all the predictable participants. And a few
unwarys and people who don't buy that 'ugly rose' stuff which seems to float
your boat.


I guess I've ticked you off since you're using my name in a pretty
disrespectful manner.

Weil, a properly grown Mr. Lincoln ain't for everyone, that's still agreed.
That is your name, isn't it?
People can call me by my name, my first name, my last name-- I don't care.
People can't call Some people by their first name or their last name cause
they like to put up walls and veils of anonymity, you should know all about
that, hanging out here like you do.
Oh wait, what was that you said? Different storkes? For different dorkes?


Of course, that seems to be the way of most word
bullies. They can dish it out but they can't take it. Sorry about
that.

Sorry Weil, that word's already taken. And remember, you're the one calling
someone's rose 'ugly'. And I wasn't even talking to you. The person I was
talking to you was smart enough to recognize when someones pullin her leg.

m

oh, almost forgot
http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~mstephen/ros99.htm



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