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Old 22-02-2003, 09:53 PM
Claudio Jolowicz
 
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Default Are apple and peach genetically related (and how)?


"Stewart Robert Hinsley" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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In article , Claudio
Jolowicz writes
Are apple and peach genetically related (and how)?

As I am not a biologist, I tried to simply google this. People say
apple, peach and quince are closely related, they show this result by
similarity tables, but no web site I found made any statements on the
genetical affinity of apple and peach.

Thanks in advance,

Claudio


All three plants are classified in the same plant family - the Rose
family, Rosaceae. Whether this counts as closely related depends on what
one means by closely related. However they are not more closely related
to each other than each is to other plants within the family.

The Rosaceae is divided into subfamilies.
The peach ...


damn I have made a stupid typo. I meant pear and I typed peach. Sorry !!!
However, my question on pears has been answered by the other paragraphs of
your post. If I understood correctly, then:

Pear and apple are both haploids with 17 chromosomes, probably descending
from an ancient polyploid. The structure of their chromosomes seems to be
very similar, as you said that little modification has occurred in it,
caused by duplications, deletions or inversions, during their evolution
from that polyploid, and (I guess) little enough to cross them.

Thanks a lot, that's exactly the sort of answer I was looking for.



The apple and quince belong to another subfamily, Maloideae. Apples
(there's many species) are classified in genus Malus. Quince is
classified in genus Cydonia, which is monospecific, quince being Cydonia
oblonga. There are many other genera in Maloideae, and it seems unlikely
that Cydonia is the most closely related genus to Malus. However, the
phylogeny of Maloideae appears to be confused; many intergeneric hybrids
occur, and genus boundaries are disputed. (I see that the taxonomists
have been chopping Sorbus into pieces.) The pears, genus Pyrus, are
often thought of as the more closely related genus to Malus. I'd guess
at Chamaemeles as the genus most closely related to Cydonia.

There are papers on the phylogeny of Maloideae out there, but the two
promising PDF files I found were restricted access, so I don't know
what's been said, beyond a few abstracts. There's also a pile of
sequences in GenBank/EMBL should anyone wish to draw their own tree.

Most of the subfamily Maloideae shares the same genomic structure, with
17 chromosomes in the haploid set. (A few basal genera differ). They are
descended from an ancient polyploid. (It's disputed whether it was an
amphiploid, or an aneuploid derivative of an autopolyploid.) The wide
range of intergeneric hybrids suggests little modification of the
structure of the chromosomes by duplications, deletions and inversions.
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Stewart Robert Hinsley