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Old 16-06-2003, 09:56 PM
Bill Oliver
 
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Default It's June But The Furnace Is Still Running

In article ,
DKat wrote:
Every reputable Scientist at this point concurs that global warming is a
fact. This is no longer disputed.


Well, no. At least not in the way you mean it. Not every reputable
scientist, for instance, believes that this global warming is a
trend that will last a certain number of years. Not every reputable
scientist believes that human factors have an important impact.

Climate changes. There's a reason that Greenland got called
Greenland and Iceland got called Iceland.

And all the chest thumping by holier-than-thou ecofundamantalists
doesn't change the fact that they don't really have a clue.

Get back to me in 150 years, and we can see. Otherwise,
you are no different than the ecofundamentalists telling
me we were all going to freeze to death in the new Ice
Age in 1975, or run out of oil in 1979, or run out of
strategic minerals in 1985, etc. etc. etc.


This last year we had more killing tornados than recorded in history.



Well, I don't know who "we" is, white-eyes. And this is
pretty much bullshit. How many tornadoes hit what is
now the continental US in, oh, 1885? You don't have a
clue. You have no idea how much of this is due to
changes in reporting as opposed to changes in tornadoes.

This reminds me of a statistic from North Carolina. When
they first instituted the Medical Examiner system there,
the number of reported murders increased by something like 40%
and the number of suicides and accidental deaths fell..
Clearly, having forensic pathologists around causes
murder!!!!

Even accepting your primitive view of recording, your
claim of more "killing tornadoes" is simply untrue. The
mortality due to tornadoes has trended *down.* The high
was in 1925, with 800 deaths. In 2000 there were less
than 50.

see:

www.stemnet.nf.ca/CITE/tornadoes_stats.htm
hpccsun.unl.edu/nebraska/U_S_SEVERE.html


The same can be said for just
about every weather event in the last decade.



.... if your time frame is a decade...


Our coral reefs are dieing,



.... except for those that are growing. If warming oceans
kill some, it *also* makes more water amenable to reef
growth that was previously too cold. Funny thing about
that.


massive ice chunks are breaking off the ice sheets on our poles,



.... well, one of them. Maybe. The opposite is happening at
the other.



we are
loosing more and more lives to weather events...



.... except we're not.


but hey... as Bush W said
... adjust.



I am. I am adjusting to the chicken-little lies of the
ecofundamentalists by not swallowing their pseudoreligious rantings
without questions.

The most amusing thing about the ecofundamentalist rant is the idea
that the world should be frozen in time -- that the climate of 1960
should be the climate for all eternity, that the species of 1960 should
be the species of all eternity, that the world of 1960 should be the
world of all eternity.

If there is anything that "nature" tells us, it's that things will
change. The world will warm up, in spite of what ecofundamentalists
want. The world will cool down, in spite of what ecofundamentalists
want. Species will come, in spite of what ecofundamentalists want.
Species will go, in spite of ecofundamentalists want.

The one driving force of nature is change -- and by their teleologic
opposition, the ecofundamentalist religion is fundamentally
anti-nature. The ecofundamentalists are not selling nature, they are
selling a particular religious aesthetic that opposes nature.

*I* may or may not adjust, but "nature" certainly will, to whatever
people do -- with or without your permission.


billo