"stuart noble" wrote in message

Snip . . . . .I can't imagine
this is a good location for any plant, unless of course its roots have
found
their way into the sewer.

Brought back some forgotten memories that did. My grandfather who was
brought up in a small cottage in Gloucestershire told me that hollyhocks
were grown by nearly everyone where he lived to hide the privy at the end of
the back garden and they all called them sh - - house roses!!

Ron