John,

I've had two for three years now (Detroit area - zone 5). They are about 8"
long (about 2" when purchased). They do very well with koi. Agressive
eaters, whenever I throw some worms in the pond, they are always first to
eat.


"John Rutz" wrote in message
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anyone keep these? the LFS has some but nobody seems to know anything
about em
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John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

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http://www.fuerjefe.com