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Old 20-07-2003, 03:32 AM
Al
 
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Default methanol + fertilizer = explosion?

Somebody sent me an email that pointed out a second patent: # 5,981,441

and told me that the lower the amount of urea as a source for the nitrogen
the better the plants will respond to the methanol.

This second patent (5,981,441 ) is actually more informative and more
detailed than the first one I found. It explains a bit about what the
methanol may do to enhance growth and what environments it works best in as
well as a bit about how methanol enhanced fertilizers work in plants
utilizing the 3 different types of photosynthesis. It appears brighter
light and higher temperatures enhance the growth response provided by the
methanol/fertilizer mix.

It contains the sentence: "A number of flowers grown with the 24-6-6 high
nitrogen/methanol solution of this invention were compared with
methanol-enhanced fertilizers from Miracle Gro and Peters. The result showed
that the higher concentration of urea as a nitrogen source, the less the
benefit that methanol exhibits."

I am still wary I would be making a bomb if I try to mix this stuff myself.

"Ray" wrote in message
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Al,

Making your own Jerry's Grow, huh?

Your calculation looks OK, but the first thing I'd test is whether the
fertilizer will dissolve in the methanol.

I doubt there will be a reaction, and assuming you don't have an ignition
source, you should be OK.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

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"Al" wrote in message
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Okay, hypothetically, I want to add methanol to my fertilizer stock

solution
that runs through my fertilizer injector so that I end up with 100 PPM
nitrogen and 1% methanol when it comes out of the hose.

I have my injector set to 1:100.

In order to get 100 PPM nitrogen I simply follow the directions on the
fertilizer bag: I add 6 and 3/4 oz of fertilizer to 1 gallon of water

and
this makes a stock solution that produces 100 PPM nitrogen at the hose

end.

Now the way I figure it, if I want to make 1% methanol AND 100 PPM

nitrogen
come out of the hose end of a fertilizer injector which is set to a

1:100
ratio then my stock solution (1 gallon) has to be 100% methanol to which

I
add 6 and 3/4 oz of fertilizer. Right?

Am I making a bomb?

Al
P.S. Hanging around the United States patent office website can be
dangerous:
Patent # 5,624,586
"Method of improving growth characteristics of plants of the family
Orchidaceae"



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