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Old 20-07-2003, 02:02 PM
Ray
 
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Default Biting the Bullet on Pesticides...Opinions, Please

First of all, forget Safers - ordinary household liquid detergents are just
as effective and far less expensive.

When I used the Enstar II-neem combo, I put soap in to emulsify the neem
oil, so got that benefit for the Enstar as well.

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"Jerry Hoffmeister" wrote in message
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Have you tried Enstar mixed with Safer Soap or Physan? Seems like it

would
be beneficial to include some sort of spreader / sticker.

"Ray" wrote in message
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You might want to consider Enstar II, as it's an insect growth regulator
rather than killer. No maturation = no more bugs. No impact on other
critters or the environment.

I have used it mixed with neem oil with great success.

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"V_coerulea" wrote in message
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I recently had an outbreak of cattleya scale which can devestate

seedlings
in a heatbeat and bring the big ones down without much trouble (and

not
just
cattleyas). There were also a few mealies around. I hit everything

with
Orthene twice, 6 days apart, first time as a spray and drench, 2nd

time
just
spray. I followed up with Enstar II twice at control doses and again

with
a
preventative dose. I haven't seen any signs of infestation in 3

weeks -X
(fingers crossed). You can imagine how long this took for several

thousand
plants. But at that point, what was the alternative? I know from now

on
that
all new plants, especially trades, get treated and isolated for

several
weeks before joining the collection. This had been my general policy

prior
to the infestation. I got lax. My fault. A reminder every-so-often is
necessary for some of us to get back on track. I had a bunch of

trouble
a
number of years ago with scale and mealies prior to "ant-proofing" the
greenhouse. Sealed and screened pretty tightly, the greenhouse gets

some
spray around doors but usually that's about it. As for the anoles, I

know
I
lose some when I have to spray. But judging by the number of little

ones
around a lot of eggs are in protected sand somewhere that keep popping

out.
They're pretty good survivors. Best of luck. Hope this helps some.
Gary

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
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Hi, Gang,

Thus far, I've never had what I would call a *serious* pest problem.

That
seems to have changed. I've been spotting mealies around the Phals

and
on
some other plants. I pulled an ailing Phal out of its pot and found

the
roots infested with the things. Since, I've been repotting Phals

like
crazy. And finding scale. Normally, I use straight alcohol, or,

for
scale,
alcohol/soap/oil. Both are effective.

Now, however, I'm afraid I need to do something more, before the

whole
collection has problems (found more scale today, on a couple of
Angraecums).
Today I picked up Malathion at HD, and on my way to the register

found
a
product called Organocide, which advertises itself as a
pesticide/fungicide,
and which is comprised of 5% sesame oil, 92% edible fish oil, and 3%
lecithin. I bought both products.

It's not that I'm completely averse to using chemicals (the

Malathion),
but
like anyone else I'd rather avoid it if possible. Also, swarms of

geckos
reside in the lanai where most of the plants are, and I don't want

to
injure
the beneficial little guys if I can help it.

So my question has to do with the effectiveness of the Organocide,

and
also
if I use Malathion can I water it through the medium? I need to do
something very soon; case by case isn't cutting it.

Anyone? Ah, I guess I'm just looking for a little reinforcement.

Come
Monday morning I'll probably bomb the place with Malathion.

Diana