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Old 22-07-2003, 03:50 AM
Tim Tompkins
 
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Default White powdery mildew

Daniel,

I know people who have liver damage and knew a man who died of multiple
carcinome, most likely as a result of extended exposure to triforine. IT IS
a hazardous chemical, other wise is would not carry the EPA toxcicity
classification of 'I'.

Acephate also carries the word 'danger' as per the EPA classification of
toxins, 'I'.

The point being, fungicides are used as a preventative measure and applied
in a regular program to be affective.
Exposure is much more likely with the regular use of triforine than acephate
which is used when the insect population reaches a point that requires use
of an insecticide. The use of a product that contiains both of these
chemicals (triforine & acephate) is a even greater risk.

Triforine is not an insecticide, true, many chemicals will kill aphids, that
is not the point. It is not registered or intended for use as an
insecticide.

Diaznon is also very toxic. Since it is often applied to lawns, it is
easily absorbed through the feet. How about your dog?

BE CAREFUL with any pesticide, they are by design, TOXIC. Even the
'organics' are toxic, they would not work if they weren't.

I do read the labels, any one who doesn't is in effect 'violating federal
law' by using the product(s) in any manner other than indicated, not to
mention being stupid.



"Daniel Hanna" wrote in message
home.com.au...
In Tim Tompkins wrote:
"Triforine is a "restricted use" pesticide (RUP) with an EPA toxicity
classification of I (highly toxic). Check with specific state
regulations for local restrictions which may apply. Products
containing triforine must bear the Signal Word "Danger" on their label.
"


So much for labels. Read the text, Tim! Has it killed anyone? Caused
cancer, perhaps? Maybe some birth defects or mutations? No? Perhaps
some soil persistence issues, then? Or maybe it accumulates in the
human body over time, then? No?

Triforine doesn't even kill aphids, Tim.

Now read http://www.roseshawaii.org/msds/orthenex.htm and see what it
says. Bingo, the dangerous part of this combination product is acephate.
It can poison a foetus and cause organ toxicity like other anti-
cholinesterase (organophosphate) chemicals. Even then it's pretty minor
league, compared to others in common garden use. Try looking up
dimethoate or diazinon for a real scare.