On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 16:06:14 +0100, "Jim Webster"
wrote:


"Moosh:]" wrote in message
Not in the UK. Typically the value of small (say 1000T) of standing
timber is approximately zero. Most places the highest value sale is for
firewood.

How about fruit, nuts?

Barely viable for specialist producers, you have to have the right climate
(which we don't except for damsons) and cheap labour for picking

Fair enough. I believe it was just a suggestion.

You could plant several types of trees, each working better in
slightly
different conditions.

Trees are not rates for moisture loss.

Best we have in Australia.

Diversity is much better against troubles.

Sometimes it is, sometimes not.

If all your crop comes in at top price, but you know about eggs in
baskets. The farmers who have survived here have been the ones who
diversify.

In jims case alternatives to grass are problematic.

Fair enough. it was just a suggestion that has probably been thought
of many times, and rejected.

You can
have the diversity within each farm, or else you use the govt to
buffer
against loss as with BSE, or both.

Govt hates to pay farmers anything.
They paid for bse primarily for public health reasons.

Don't they pay you guys for NOT growing crops, like in the US and
Europe?

I hate to think who will bear the brunt
of troubles with the huge GM reduced diversity scheme.

Que?

My comment to a tee. Que? Si!

not in the UK, planting trees is a waste of time and is not economically
viable unless you have an awful lot of land.Plant trees here and you
would
drive people off the land

Absolutely. I doubt they would grow very well given your location
anyway. If the wind didn't get them, the salt would.

Abolutely NO tree crop able to be considered?

not really,

firstly we haven't the room, only 150 acres
secondly the margin is too small on all of them, I cannot afford to sit and
wait 15- 20 years before I see any income at all.
thirdly the timber market in the UK is on the floor, fruit is imported from
countries with better weather and cheap labour

Yep, you (UK) are so close to cheap producers, I guess, where we are
so far away from anything (except the tropics