In article , dave weil
wrote:

On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 09:37:44 -0700, Cass
wrote:

saki wrote:

Cass wrote in
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In article , Unique Too
wrote:

I almost fell for your Lavender Dream suggestion, read all about
it, found a supplier, everything....

I don't know how Lavender Dream handles heat. It would be a shame if
it fades or crisps or something.

Could I ask who the supplier is, and whether they're willing to ship now?
Helpmefind lists various suppliers but I've had no luck finding anyone who
actually has it in stock.

That's the rub. Unfortunately, it is a patent rose and the patent is
held by J & P. I don't know if they've ever released the rose. It is
available through Canadian suppliers. Their sites says they won't ship
to the US, but it happens. You can't keep a good rose secret. Imagine
if Outta the Blue came from Europe. That thing would be over here in a
heartbeat.

My plant was sold to me misidentified. It took a couple of years to
nail down what it really was. The patent will expire in a few more
years...until then, the only hope is to bomb J & P with emails to get
them to release the rose OR or hope for a supplier that has been
licensed.

It isn't lavender, btw. But it is on the mauve end of pink, certainly
not the bubble gum pink like Bonica.

A few years ago:
http://www.rosefog.us/imagesAtoI/BelindaShrub.jpg

This spring:
http://www.rosefog.us/imagesJtoZ/LavDreamMay03.jpg

A 24" spray on my mature plant:
http://www.rosefog.us/imagesJtoZ/LavDreamSpray.jpg

The foliage, showing how it handles PM:
http://home.earthlink.net/~cbernstei.../LDFoliage.jpg

Wow, now *that's* the sort of rose I've been looking for. I really
want a nice rounded mound of blooms to take up some room in my yard...

Any other suggestions along this line?

Mounds are a function of winter pruning. By the end of the season,
there are always some angular canes sticking out.

The biggest mound of all: Sally Holmes. A little mound: The Fairy
(blooms finish badly on both, tho).

Another mound: Iceberg. http://www.rosefog.us/imagesAtoI/IcebergPot.jpg

How about Brilliant Pink Iceberg if you don't want white? Finishes
better than Iceberg, which is gross when the old blooms stick around.

How about Marjorie Fair
http://www.rosefog.us/imagesJtoZ/MarjorieFairPot.jpg

or Ballerina? Both will arch out and form a little mound. Ballerina is
a little more disease resistant here, and while it fades, it fades to
the clearest white. Like Marjorie Fair, it produces lots and lots of
little round hips. Add Yesterday, which is, I believe, the climbing
form, and you have an entire dynasty of roses derived from Ballerina
that have basically the same growth habit, clean foliage, and lots of
flowers.

Flower Girl is the latest decendant. The blooms are bigger, but the
flowering is constant.