12-08-2003, 08:02 PM
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What's The Latest On Roundup Herbicide?
In article , (Bill Oliver) wrote:
In article ,
paghat wrote:
Monsanto has been caught out lying so many times even in courts of law,
there's just no question but that they are never a source of truth.
Examples on the record: When Monsanto lied to the people of Sturgeon
Missouri about the "safety" of chemical spills, they ended up losing the
court case & paying over $16 million dollars. What did they lie about?
Everything. A deadly chemical gets spilled, they sent in their "experts"
(including Frank Dost) to conduct "tests" and "studies" so that they could
"prove" the chemical spill couldn't possibly hurt anyone, & then they
published as "science" fraudulant studies, & hired spin doctors to
interpret the false science in simpler terms for a population they clearly
regarded as gullible hicks.
As opposed, of course, to the hired guns put on by the plaintiffs.
You know that your scientific case is lost when you resort
to quoting torts as your basis for "truth." The bottom line
is that class action torts are not a test for truth in any
sense of the word. Junk science is much more often introduced
by plaintiffs than defendants in torts, and the courts
are incapable of telling the difference.
Yes, yes, independent peer reviewed science is not as good as Monsanto's
famously fabricated "science," & testimony under oath is not as good as
testimony from Monsanto PR flacks. I get ya.
Idle curiosity, you're not the same William Oliver who has chaired
Monsanto love-fest symposia through the American Chemical Society,
inviting primarily Monsanto and DuPont researchers as speakers,
persistently giving recognition dinners & awards to Monsanto workers &
retirees, gives out chemistry awards funded by Monsanto, & "Fund"amentally
kisses Monsanto's butt in order to get them to write out more checks for
non-independent research?
I don't really think that's you, as I've never regarded you as that sneaky
& have enjoyed so many of your posts for, what, three or for years?, but
did want to be sure that in this case you're honestly misguided rather
than willfully & as a matter of professional courtesy repeating by rote so
many Monsanto whoppers right down their "safe as salt" cliche & their idea
that testimony under oath is not as reliable as their PR people, that
people concerned about the environment are not as truthful as people
profiting by selling toxins, & any science not paid for or conducted by
Monsanto can't possibly be correct but their press releases are the real
truth.
-paghat the ratgirl
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"Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher.
"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
-from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers"
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