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Old 16-08-2003, 05:42 PM
Henrik Gistvall
 
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Default [IBC] bonsai in art--IMPORTANT

OK to set things straight. If he is an art student and paints for
training he can paint what ever he likes as long as these paintings are
not on display or for sale. If he copys a painting he has to sign it
with his own name, to copy the artist signature is illegal. If he paints
(copy) a bonsai or a photo of a bonsai and wants to sell it he must have
the artists permission, either the bonsaiartist or the photographer, or
both! The unique composition of the bonsai or the photograph belongs to
the artist. Of course you can always alter something and then it is
almost impossible to claim the copyright, like adding a branch or two ;-).

Henrik Gistvall, Uppsala, Sweden

Jim Lewis wrote:


You need to understand something: many of us publish our work

in magazines,
other's books, and our own books. As the photographers of our

respective
trees, we own "rights" to these photographs.

You will need to contact each artist respectively to acquire

authorization
for use. I suggest posting the images to a web site page for

collective
review--at which time those with images of trees appearing on

this web page can
contact you about granting permissions for their use.


Er . . . folks . . . he is PAINTING from the photos. He is NOT
using the photos of the tree for his own commercial purposes, or
claiming that the tree (or photo) is his for some other nefarious
purpose.

If someone wants to sketch Yosemite's half dome from one of Ansel
Adams' photos, he does NOT have to get permission from the Adams
estate. (And, IMHO doubled Adams' photos of the great outdoors
are a heckva lot closer to art than photos of bonsai. Or, for
that matter, bonsai -- but that's another discussion. ;-) Wander
through any decent art museum and you will see "artists" copying
paintings and sketching sculptures by established artists, live
and dead.

What he produces will NOT be your tree. It will be his
_rendition_ of your tree.

That is acceptable use, and each of you ought to be flattered and
grateful, rather than snippy. Sheesh!

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Get real! -
possibly attributed to Frank Zappa, noted philosopher ;-)

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