In article ,
Tom Jaszewski tomj wrote:
On 21 Aug 2003 15:49:01 GMT, (Bill Oliver) wrote:

I love this. You guys cyberstalk to find out where I work and
what I do in order to challenge my credentials and try
to discredit me. Now you whine when I turn it back on you.
What a bunch of hypocrites.

No Billoboy I never challenged your credentials. What I challenged
was your ability to review Monsanto and its policies given your close
proximity to it's funding.

Which you asserted, but never demonstrated. Yet another lie.

Nonetheless, since you are so convinced that oppenness and disclosure
are important, why not display the same?


Where do you work?


What are your scientific credentials?


As you said, "the jig is up."


As religious as your fervor is to defend
Monsanto it's obvious to some here you have some sort of interest in
defending a first class bunch of chemical pukes, charlatans and liars.

Actually, I never once defended Monsanto. My claim is, and
always has been that Roundup is not dangerous to humans
when used as directed. You have not shown otherwise, while
I have provided multiple studies that show that it is safe
at these dosages, and requires very high dosages for damage.

You cannot refute that, so you stoop to primitive personal
attack, and lies at that.


Personally I'm glad educations of your level are functioning in the
capacity you are. Fact remains you don't know shit about gardening,
soil, soil biology, and the effects of herbicides.

I know about the human pathology. And I don't dismiss sicence
simply because it conflicts with my religion -- and my
personal cash flow.

Tell me, Tom, how much money do you make pushing your
anti-science agenda?

Science and real
peer reviewed research is horribly lacking as many mainstream
herbicides go. What those of us who are stewards of gardens clearly
see daily are the ill effects of the products you defend.

Oh, really? Do you have any documentation of the human patients
you've treated?


Read some
research on the effects of roundupon soil biology. Last I checked the
foods we eat (those of us who eat grocery store nutrient lacking crap)
is grown in those damaged soils. Science defended DDT and good science
will reveal glyphosphate for what it is.

It already has. It has revealed it to be safe for humans when
used as directed.

And all the personal villification and all the diversion in
the world doesn't change that.

And all your ducking about your conflict of interest makes
you no different than what you claim of Monsanto.

Hypocrite.

billo