In sci.med.nutrition Gordon Couger wrote:

"Brian Sandle" wrote in message
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More likely they used pre-planting Roundup to remove weeds which
would compete with the emerging cotton. But the nettles were not
killed.

Nettles are perennial plants that root deep in the ground. The
area had had one rain in 2 months that they planted cotton after.
They did not bother to spray a few nettles when they would have to
spray in week or two for the weed that came up after the rain. You
don't spend the money for a few nettles that you will get a better
kill on when they have more leaves and growth.

Showing resistance, then. That is why Pursuit is needed?


Or maybe Or maybe Roundup (glyphosate) causes some yellowing, in
Roundup Ready plants, even if not as much as Zeneca's sulfosinate

sorry, wrong spelling, shoudl be sulfosate.


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So we give the boll worm the option of developing resistance
biochemcially or learning to avoid too much of the part of the plant
which contains the Bt. In the latter case don't we see attempts by
biotech to put Bt in the cellulose?

The boll worm can survive with out the boll to protect him from the
elements
and predators.

How does that answer what I wrote?

The boll worm eats the cotton seeds, which are GM Bt. It cuts the
lint to get to the seed. And you say the lint gives protection to
the boll worm.

There is no lint in the boll when the boll worm infests it. The lint does
not start to form for several weeks.



Another writer said wood borer must get energy from cellulose, since
cellulose is such a large fraction of wood. So maybe the boll worm
can adapt to eat some cellulose - the lint - instead of just using
it for protection. Or else it can develop and enzyme to detoxify
Bt. Or both.

Either learn something about what your are taking about or go back to
****.down.my.leg.environmentally.whining.

In this case I am trying to guess what biotechnicians might do in
the future. If the boll worm adapts to eating and getting energy
from lint then the biotechs might try to develop a plant with Bt in
the lint. If so some asthmatics might have more trouble with cotton
fibre. Just guessing. Some need to wear a mask when gardening and Bt
is a soil micro-organism. It may need checking some time in the
future.

The worm doesn't have any way to ferment cellulose. Your
speculations are typical of the idiotic thinking that is used to
oppose science of all kinds. You have no idea how any of this
works but still you think your opinion has some value. If you want
to participate in science go learn some.

Sometimes not knowing can help one to jump through possibly wrong
limitations that the current known imposes.

Yes cattle are grass eaters. Yes they can be fed grain to fatten
them. Then some digestion is still progressing in the intestines and
the E.Coli can increase.

Termites can have bacteria or bigger organisms in their guts which
digest cellulose for them. The bollworm may be a bit simpler, but
who knows what may happen with the GM packages present in its feed?
The strength of the Bt tapers off as the plant reaches maturity so
OPs are still required for late stage protection. Attempts to
produce cotton with two different Bt genes to try to overcome that
have produced a rather low yielding cotton.