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Old 24-09-2003, 10:02 PM
Beckenbach, Jay
 
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Default [IBC] Satsuki Help Needed

Kev, thanks for the note. Thought about the misting. Can do if you think
it'll help. Set up a short duration misting operation to carry my plants
over a two week vacation (with neighbor backup). Worked like a charm.
Shade isn't a problem as my yard is covered with specimen oaks, definite
high shade but very little direct sun. I'm in north-central Florida so I
expect a few more months before frost and then I have a hoop house which I
set up this summer in preparation for this winter. Who would have guessed
that the first thing I'd need it for is a salvage operation. Good stuff.
Some of the trunks seem over 2" (5cm for you) between the two root systems.
That's why I hope to put most of them on their original roots, to get that
lovely trunk. I hope the moss peat covers the acid point, yes? The
vermiculite seems a bit fine but I felt I needed it to get in between the
roots after the original dirt (probably the original potting soil) out.
When I soaked the ones I potted up today, it seemed to drain slowly. Is
this possibly caused by the dry conditions of the vermiculite and moss peat?
As to how large, I hope to be in the 12"+ range (30 cm). Might get to 18"
(50 cm). Lovely flower, double red self with dark red blotch. Do you know
the variety? After 20 years, no one around here can be sure what was
planted so I'll have to go with an identification.

Thanks again for the help and have fun - jay

Jay Beckenbach - Melrose, FL - Zone 8b/9a -


-----Original Message-----
From: kevin bailey ]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:57 PM
To: 'Beckenbach, Jay';

Subject: [IBC] Satsuki Help Needed


Never collected large Satsuki myself, you lucky *********! I doubt they
are going to be much different to many other broadleaved shrubs other
than in their need for an acidic mix.

I have lifted smaller Satsuki that have been grown on in the garden for
a few years but I did this at the right time, spring.

That said, a rescue of something like this is too good to pass up and I
would recommend shade, regular misting and protection from wind. If you
are likely to be getting frosts anytime soon then some protection from
that would be helpful too. Avoid keeping the roots too wet. Water them
just the once and then let them get a little on the dry side so the
roots are hopefully prompted into going looking for water.

Most of all, good luck!

Cheers

Kev Bailey
Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales

-----Original Message-----
From: Internet Bonsai Club ] On Behalf
Of Beckenbach, Jay
Sent: 24 September 2003 18:53
To:

Subject: [IBC] Satsuki Help Needed

Or what I did on my "vacation"

I took yesterday afternoon and this morning off because the Grounds
Department told me they were removing some satsuki yesterday. I had
previously looked and they seemed to be planted in fairly uniform groups
as
a decorative mass plantings. So I brought my hand tools and showed up.
So
wrong!

First, they were removed Monday morning a just piled back behind a
utility
shed. Next, no one told the crew doing the work that someone from the
local
bonsai group was going to be coming by. Finally, the plants had been
planted over twenty years ago and some of them much too deep so the
visible
portion of the plants were really branches of bigger plants. Naturally,
they ground layered at that point giving many plants two root systems.

I took 22 plants home with me last night after drastically pruning the
tops.
Boy are my hands sore. I've washed out the roots and have them covered
with
a wet sheet in the shade near my potting shed. This morning the ones
with
leaves looked happier so I've potted up 6 using the original roots where
they are acceptable (some were not planted as low as others and two
never
had their original roots spread when initially planted so the original
roots
didn't grow much). The 6 have been re-washed and put into a 50/50 mix
of
vermiculite and peat moss (or moss peat for those on the old side of the
pond). I plan to do the rest as soon as possible and are keeping the
roots
wet with the sheet.

Here's the question, what can I do to increase the survival rate? All
suggestions gratefully accepted. I get the digest for lunch
entertainment
so if I do not respond immediately, that may be the reason. TIA - jay

Jay Beckenbach - Melrose, FL - Zone 8b/9a -


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