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Old 10-10-2003, 11:33 AM
Jim W
 
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Default Which is right..?

Nick Maclaren wrote:

In article ,
DLee wrote:

I am planning to lay slabs in our middle of the backgarden, so we can have
extra patio ares and also put a shed there.
I ahve not done this work before, and I was watching TV DIY program, and
also read DIY books from the library. But they are teling different stories.

The books says that you must dig 1 ft deep, and then put hardcore for 0.5 ft
and level it, then put sand and then slabs can be laid on it.

Tommy Walsh in H&L channel DIY program was teaching his students - just make
motar (5 builders sand + 1 cement), and he just put them on the flattened
soil, and then laid slabs on it. No hardcore, no sand.. - surely this will
create drainage problem, and due to soil movement - slabs will go up and
down in a few years?


Neither. The former is WAY overkill, and is what you need to do if
building something to take light goods vehicles! The latter is a
damn-fool idea, for the reasons you give, amongst others.

Cormaic has some first-class Web pages on this, but I forget where
they are. Even they are slightly overkill for a simple patio and
shed, but tell you how to do the job 'properly'.

If you have stable soil (i.e. largely sand or gravel), then you don't
need any foundation - just tread the soil down well. If you are on
clay, then it will heave a bit if you do that, but that isn't critical
for a patio and shed base.

You then want to use 2" of sharp sand to lay the slabs on. You CAN
lay slabs straight on soil (I have done a lot of that), but it is a
right pain in the neck unless the soil is (a) very sandy and (b) very
dry. I wouldn't advise it, starting now.

For a simple patio and shed base, you can be very laid back indeed.
Follow Cormaic's Web pages, but don't worry about getting everything
perfect.


I can agree with Nicks comments.. See cormaic's pages ..

The short answer.. 'Both' methods are accptable, but one will last
longer than the other.. the method shown is a 'quicky' method..
acceptable for light domestic use.. The hardcore method is 'industrial'
style.. By the book (probably) and would be more acceptable to heavy
pedestrian traffic.

http://www.pavingexpert.com is the site Nick refers to.

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Jim