I agree with Alan, just because the design of a bonsai is transitory, that
doesn't mean it isn't art.

Jim, you also say that a painting (or a bonsai) must be "good" to be art.
Is that "good" as defined only by you, or do other people's definition of
"good" also make art? I have seen a lot of art that I don't think is very
"good", as I suspect we all have, but others seem to like it and consider it
to be art.

Regards,
Roger Snipes Spokane, WA Zone 5, or maybe Zone 6.
Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it, misdiagnosing it,
and then misapplying the wrong remedies. Groucho Marx (1895-1977)

----- Original Message -----

Jim: Your debate only makes sense by using semantic illusion. You have
created a
definition of art to fit your argument. Durability is a rather novel
criterion for
defining art. While you might find someone making that argument in an
obscure
reference, durability is not a widely held criterion for defining art.
I believe all art is ephemeral. Change is the key constant in our
universe. (Well, along with death and taxes!)

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