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12-11-2003, 12:42 AM

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[Cereoid-UR12-] wrote...

Obviously you have been doing too much pontificating and have not paying
attention, Melvin.

Pontificating, moi?

Are you aspiring to be Rinkytink's lap dog?

Arf.

I gave a much better reference than the one you cite with out-dated

Old references are bad? Are you sure you like plant taxonomy?

second-hand vague definitions. It is a almost a crime that some references
books have such lousy poorly conceived definitions. It really doesn't matter
that someone like you is under the mistaken impression that what they say is
gospel.

Not "gospel" but as examples of actual usage of the terms in
question.

Here is a more thoughtful and thoroughly researched reference on the
subject:

Spjut, R.W. (1994) A SYSTEMATIC TREATMENT OF FRUIT TYPES. Memoires of the
N. Y. Bot. Gard. vol. 70.

So, you like that treatment's definitions better? I've got it right
here. But if you look, it actually agrees with those other books I'd
cited, at least in regards to the basic definitions of "berry" and
drupe". It even uses a diagram of a 4-seeded Ilex fruit to illustrate
"Drupe", and cites Persea as an example of a 1-seeded berry

[snip of previous]

cheers