Near toronto ontario canada. Judging by that map i seem to be on the
4b 5a transition.

i'll do some research. i have all winter to think about this.

Thanks

Kevin

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:21:50 -0800, "AnonnyMoose"
wrote:

The Heirloom catalog lists zones for their roses. They also have a group of
roses particularly hardy that they recommend for cold areas (the Extra
Winter Hardy Roses). What's your location? Do you know the zone?

Zone map he http://www.usna.usda.gov/Hardzone/ushzmap.html?

And you will find several articles about growing roses in cold winter
locations (Montana, Minnesota and Iowa) with recommendations he
http://www.heirloomroses.com/express...searticles.htm

This is the link to their hardy climbing roses.
http://www.heirloomroses.com/express...age=cat&cat=31

It looks like they don't include zone info for each rose in the online
catalog, but the print catalog is more complete. You can always send them an
email if you have questions. I've found them very helpful

Karen





"kevins_news" wrote in message
.. .
One last question. I know i can look up what climate these roses
prefer. And i know many people who grow small rose bushes around
here. But hopefully someone can speak from experience and tell me if
these climbing roses will survive in my type of climate?

By november we're getting days below freezing. We get snow and it
says during the winter. Down to -20 Centigrade (-4 F) regularly.
March we start going above freezing and it's april/may before we hit
+20 C. During the summer we get stretches of 20 C at night with 35 C
during the day ( 77 F - 95 F).

Kevin

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:06:01 -0800, "AnonnyMoose"
wrote:

I'm doing something like what is suggested below. The roof over my porch
is
too high to shade the windows and it gets so hot plants on the porch
actually burn to a crisp!

I bought two welded metal garden art forms (that look like the branches
of a
bush) and placed them in front of the porch. On them I planted rambling
roses - Albertine
http://www.heirloomroses.com/express...at=17&item=266
They covered the forms and are drooping over beautifully within one
season!

On the same side of the house, on the wall without the porch I ran steel
strand in a narrow W pattern from ground level to eaves, and on the
strands
I am growing climbing roses - Portlandia

http://www.heirloomroses.com/express...t=13&item=490.

Other roses that grow like gangbusters and are very hardy:

Darlow's Enigma
http://www.heirloomroses.com/express...at=17&item=171
It is a vigorous grower, blooms all season and the fragrance is superb -
a
real bonus.

Paul's Himalyan Musk
http://www.heirloomroses.com/express...at=17&item=264
I'm growing this up a tree and in it's first season it grew about 15 ft!

One benefit of using roses, of course, is that you can capture the heat
in
winter. If you go the rose route I recommend Heirloom's own-root roses.
They
are hard to kill!

Karen


"hermine stover" wrote in message
.. .

One solution is to construct a free-standing trellis next to the wall
and grow the vines on THAT, because some vines do damage structure.
I believe you will find that such a planting, or ANYTHING which
screens the house itself will have considerable benefit in lowering
the heat load.