In article P8U%9.172770$AV4.4524@sccrnsc01, says...

How are your roses? Our are swimming, (literally, we have been
drenched for the past two weeks and this is one time we are
so happy about digging down to China to ensure proper drainage
otherwise here in clay paradise they would floating by the sidewalks)

Ours are pretty damp here in Spokane. The soil isn't clay though and
it's about half river rock so drainage is no problem. But it may be June
before I have to water anything :-).

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It's turtles - all the way down!