On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:44:09 GMT, (Richard Lewis)
wrote:

(George Cleveland) wrote:

Jeez, I don't see that at all. The guy is keeping his day job. He can do it
from home via a satellite link up. He just wants to know what he would need
to keep himself in food and off the treadmill of consumerism. Noble goals,
although the slant towards isolation is a bit worrying. I have no idea
what to tell him other than it probably won't take much land and if he does
it right it shouldn't involve an excessive amount of work.

Really? The post I saw was about a guy building his own off-grid
house on his own land and going totally self-sufficient.

Here's the quote from the original post:

"My "day job" can be done remotely, via wireless Internet
connection, with flexible hours, thus leaving time and
opportunity for extensive gardening/farming, etc"

That's the main sticking point, though. It's a matter of degrees.

One fellow might say "I want to grow my own food and be
self-sufficient" and mean nothing more than that he wanted to start a
garden to putter in on the weekends. Another might plan to go the
total route and become truly "self-sufficient".

Since this thread got cross-posted to my own group of
misc.survivalism, my interpretation of "self-sufficient" is probably
going to be radically different from someone's on rec.gardens.edible.

I don't define "self-sufficient" as "maintaining his day job and not
requiring an excessive amount of work". Whoever said that has never
processed a pound of seed into harvested grain and then into a pound
of bread.

ral


g.c.