I have read the the self-sufficiency requirements and have
noticed some inconsistencies. The all talk about being a
vegetarian but they seem to ignore that they are wearing
leather shoes, and cotton or wool clothing.

If they are indeed self sufficient then perhaps the should
be raising livestock for wool, fleece, and leather.

Also the intensive cultivation of the land will require the
use of fertilizer and I have seen no one post about the
cultivation of nitrogen fixing plants.

I think that a lot of this self-sufficiency is more dreaming
than actual fact. Any one who lives off he land knows that
land and water are things that you cannot have enough of.

The Independent

wmbjk wrote:

Jonathan Ball wrote:

I'm reading this in misc.rural, where people frequently
inquire about living "off the grid". I think they are,
for the most part, overly taken with the American
frontier mythology. They all want to be Jim Bridger or
Kit Carson. I have no doubt that if a Wenzel propane
stove (http://tinyurl.com/ytfl) had been available in
their time, Bridger and Carson would have used them.

So you've formed an opinion about off-gridders based on misc.rural
postings? That makes a lot of sense in an
I-read-that-you-can-get-spray-hair-in-a-can sorta' way. So keep
posting, your thoughts on the subject must be useful for something.

Wayne