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Old 15-12-2003, 07:02 AM
Cereoid-UR12-
 
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Default why they are coiled?

Oh Gawkward, you are nothing if not the fluffboy of the universe!!!

Wacko Jacko has nothing on you. Some day the Periodic Law will catch up with
you!!!

Do you use you right hand or left hand when you abuse the Fibonacci series?

Are you going to publish your findings in the Weekly World News or post it
on WebTV?


Gaiawar wrote in message
m...
"Peter Jason" wrote in message

...
Medieval figurines have a "S" shape that is quite attractive.


"Cereoid-UR12-" wrote in message
om...
Don't be limited by what you know. Learn more and investigate the
exceptions. Beware of what other people tell you. Do your own

research.

What does any of this have to do with botany?


What is the point you are trying to make?


R.bioson wrote in message
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you say that there is far practical than stable the form is,Why?
I have checked the snails and seashells that they are the same as

that
were said
as the person told me. there are more right-handed seashells than

the
left-handed
ones in mang species, and I have also found out that the seashells

fossils
found
to be left-handed, of cause this is got from the very species, but

what
it
told us?
I think that the envriment is the same as before, but what caused

the
form
pattner
of the seashells to change, I can find out nothing according to

this.
How
to explain
this phonomenon?
the star groups usually to be as a spiral form as ours own galaxy,

do
not
you know.

also thanks a lot!


"Cereoid-UR12-" wrote in message

om...
A coil has far less outer surface area than does a line. The coil

is
more
practical than stable.

Are you trying to say a spiral is the same as a coil?

Check out the Fibonacci series.

You ask the person who told you there are more right handed coils

than
left
why they said that.

The orbits of the planets are elliptical not coiled. The various

star
groups
are in many different forms.

Clouds certainly are not coiled.

Coiled rocks? Sez who?


R.bioson wrote in message
om...
I have seen many plants and other livingthings having their

coiled
body.
many trees can have a right hand strand or a left hand strand

form,
just as they are forced to be that, but what caused them like

that?
I also find that in our universe there are so mang coiled forms,

the
typhoon, the clouds, the rocks, the stars groups and so on.
Is it to say that the coiled form is mor stable than other

forms?
even I have been told that there are many right hand coiled

forms
than
the left handed forms.
but why?



Previously in this thread a person posited that handedness of a plant
is not relevant to the purpose of this ng. The relevance is obvious to
the serious student. Here in North Texas, for example, the Campsis
radicans proper coils its tendrils to the right, and it does the same
in Missouri, but the rarer and yet undocumented close cousin that is
common in Dallas County coils its tendrils to the left. Wih a single
experiment I eliminated the tendrils and the vining nature of the
common Campsis radicans. When opportunity allows I will publish a
comparison of the three. The question in this thread concerning
handedness is one of a pack of questions that set me in 1989 upon a
journey of questioning and exploring the energies of nature after I
observed and recorded a rather anomalous event that happened
immediately after a record 100 year flood swept through Dallas.

I am a lead industrial electrician by trade and a naturalist by
predilection and intent since childhood; such a challenge could not be
brushed off or ignored. So I began a journey of research and discovery
that lasted six years. I learned from that the value of the
controlling numbers in nature, and I learned of the dangers inherent
in our careless manipulations of those forces that are reflected in
those numbers.

From what I have observed I think that handedness is usually an
incidental byproduct of standard metabolic processes, and it is
subject to reversal for necessary purposes that elude our cursory
observations. Polar manipulation of heterodyne fields which carry
specified elemental atoms have direct and reproducible effects upon
the growth and structure of plants. I do not have the expensive
equipment necessary to exactly measure these effects, but there are
some government funded studies in this field, and those people have
much to offer that greatly broadens our understanding of the
mathematical beauty of Helianthus and the bromeliads, to name a
couple.

There are a number of ways to apply the Fibonacci sequence to nature,
but we too often stop there and do not look at how it squares the
circle of life and vice-versa. The number of compaction within itself:
1 divided by .618033988--- = 1.61803988----, directs the field about
each atom, mass, planet, solar system and galaxy. Handedness might be
determinded in a fundamental sense by Periodic Law.

The question is challenging and deserving of serious investigation.
Nautilus and Helianthus connived to present us vain humans with a
challenge of cosmic proportions.

-Gaiawar