Ayrshire wrote:
"gregpresley" wrote in
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I'm sorry if I missed your science/biology/nutrition credentials
in this discussion, as well as those of your cohorts who chose to
dismiss the conclusions of this author without reading a word of
her book. Perhaps you'd care to share? Otherwise, I'll be forced
to disregard everything you write, as meaningless drivel coming
out of a well of ignorance.

.........Still waiting, didn't get any response to this part of my
post in the long unsupported rant by the following poster......

"Jonathan Ball" wrote in





No, Johnathan, what you are unwilling to do is accept Greg's
political analysis.

You seem to have Greg and me mixed up; further evidence
for that is that you misattribute his comment about
universities only hiring highly credentialed persons to me.

Greg is not offering a political analysis; I am. Greg
is refusing to accept mine, as he is cynically trying
to pretend that "Diet For a Small Planet" is about
science, not polemical agenda advancement. He is
wrong. The "scientific" conclusion offered in "DFSP"
is unimportant to the point of being utterly trivial.
What IS important in it is Lappe's sense - her
UNSCIENTIFIC, ideologically driven sense - that hunger
in the world is due to "injustice", and that the
"injustice" is due to the market.

Quite unintentionally, she points out that world
hunger, to the extent it is driven by the misguided
protectionist agricultural policies of the developed
western nations, is caused by a *refusal* to let the
market work. The subsidies she decries, and that I
decry, are the result of ANTI-market forces at work.

Lappe attributes the existence of hunger to an
economy that fails to offer everyone opportunity.

Which is at least partly a bogus charge, and is
motivated solely by her leftist ideology. Her
scientific credentials, whatever they are, do not
entitle her to make such a judgment.

She fails to note
that the majority of these economies are really socialist
dictatorships or countries where islam is the dominant culture.

Lappe is more interested in criticizing, polemically
and NOT scientifically, the market economies of the
developed nations.

Poverty & food is used as a weapon to keep enough people enslaved to
the leadership of the country in order to maintain control. Sudan,
Zimbabwe, Afghanistan, Bangladesh & Cuba are examples of the control
& cultures I speak about.

If you go to the page of Lappe's UNscientifically
founded, leftist political agenda-motivated
organization to which I earlier provided a link,
www.foodfirst.org, you will find that they are FULL of
effusive praise for Cuba. In other words, we are
dealing here with garden variety 1960s activists who
don't realize they LOST.

She talks about the plight of landless and
land-poor people and the need for land reform. Of course there is no
definition of land reform, which usually means taking land away from
owners to give someone else. this is another means of control like
the Mexican revloution's land reform and subsequent 70 years of one
party rule.
The nonsense you refer to

You mean the nonsense the ardent leftist Greg refers to...

about universities only hiring highly
credentialed persons is laughable. One doesn't get tenure in a
university unless they toe the politically correct line, or kiss up
to the egotists in the department. Reams of research gets shelved
because the results aren't what the professor wanted. I've spent
enough time working in universities to know.