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I think this might be duplicating someone's earlier post, but . . .

Do you think I would be able to grow a fruiting grape vine up North? I have
this "walled garden", and the walls are less than fantastic to look at, with
peeling whitewash and stuff. I'm trying to encourage an ivy to grow all over
it, rather than trying to paint it, but it's only about a foot long so far,
so there's a way to go!

Anyway - I have lots of wall space, and wondered about a grape vine. I've
heard that with the warmer summers recently some people have had success
with vines in the North, but I'm not sure. I believe they're relatively
expensive to buy, and difficult to look after, so I don't want to get one if
it's going to be a dead loss.

On a south or south-west facing wall you should get results. The secret
is (allegedly) to bury a (dead) donkey under the vine, but I couldn't
find one, so I just got a lot of bones from the butcher.

Grape vines aren't expensive. Four or five pounds ought to get you a
decent-sized one. Mine's Black Hamburg, and judging from other people's
BH vines, you'll really have to prune it back to keep it in order. (And
get decent-sized grapes.)

I'd advise getting detailed viticulture instructions before attempting
any pruning - prune at the wrong time of year and your vine could bleed
to death.

Also - is it possible to grow a kiwi fruit tree from seed, or is it best to
get a small one and pot it? I have a "magic shelf" inside where I could
easily start one off, I think, even now while it's cold. I don't know if I
would be OK potting it in the spring/summer, though.

Yes, but leave it a bit until there is more light. They germinate
easily, but lose viability (IME) if you don't plant them fairly quickly
after collection. You will need a male vine as well as a female one if
you hope to get fruit, and I've no idea how or if you can tell the
difference in seedlings.

They are pretty frost-hardy, very decorative, but Pat Gardiner reports
lack of fruit after
Would the same thing be possible for a grape vine, do you think?