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Old 12-01-2004, 11:04 PM
Peter H
 
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Default Self-Sufficiency Acreage Requirement?

Alan Connor wrote:


We can digest parched grass SEEDS, though, commonly known as "grain",

Seeds & plants are two different classes of edibles.

and
the roots are not only nutritious and tasty,

Some are nutritious, some are not, some are toxic, and none are "tasty"
other than plants such as beets, carrots, yams, etc. which are developed
for their roots or other underground edible parts; in a goodly number of
these cases the above-ground portion of the plant is toxic,
non-digestible, and often a combination of the two.

but contain essential B vitamins.

(this is where B12 comes from:

So we short-circuit the agricultural world & eat just nitrogen-fixing
bacteria as a source of B-vitamins? Not apt to catch on.

Soil bacteria that are found in Nature around
and on the roots of grass, NOT from cows or deer, except indirectly.)

But it's in a readily digestible form for carnivores & omnivores. And
cooked meat, for at least 100,000 years, TASTES GOOD.


grain=protein

We can also chew the grass stems and leaves obtaining sustenance without
swallowing all that cellulose,

Miniscule quantities at best

and cooking releases even more.

Cooking breaks down the cell structure; digestive processes do also -
for some materials.


(A downed American airmen in the Balkans survived a grueling cross-country
escape from enemy-held territory by chewing on grass...)

Hardly what one would call a subsistence diet. Shipwreck survivors have
made do with boots & belts but no sane person would suggest such a diet
other than in extremis.


I'd be willing to bet that some simple treatment with vinegar or perhaps
a weak lye solution would make the entire plant digestible. Worth looking
into....

Did you ever take chemistry in high school? This suggestion seems far
more like wishful thinking than nutrition.


But then, there are approximately 1800 known wild edible plants in the U.S.,
so why bother with anything but the seeds and roots of grass?

See your doctor. Soon.

It's the seeds the Bears go after...

Bears are omnivores. Although they eat acorns, beechnuts, hazlenuts,
they prefer berries, which are not simple seeds, because they're easy to
gather & a variety come into season one species after another giving the
bears a moderately continuous food supply. But they also eat ants,
beetles, sow bugs & other insects found in stumps & rotting timber. They
will also eat birds, eggs, fish, reptiles, small mammals & their own
young. And bears are great for cleaning up carrion that the
ravens/vultures can be scared away from.

(that's what they use to stoke up for
winter: grass seeds. Which is one of the reasons Cattle grazing on public
lands is so hard on the Bears.)

16# of grain to produce 1# of meat, and that pound of meat will have one
heck of a lot less protein in a form that is much harder for the Human
body to digest.

The human digestive tract is designed to handle both vegetable and meat.
So long as it's presented with a generalized mixture of the two, the
only conflict is in the minds of those who think they know more than
Mother Nature.


Then there's all that work and water that meat requires.

So you go on an all-vegetable diet (without work? if you patent that,
your fortune's made no matter what you eat) and if you don't drink water
your experiment will end rather quickly. Humans are not kangaroo rats
that can get all their liquid requirements from their food items.

About the only thing in your post I can agree with is that the world
contains food. Your notions about what can/should be eaten need serious
& deep examination.

Pete H

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When eating an elephant
take one bite at a time.
C. Abrams