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from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:

I have often wanted to grow a Kiftsgate, but have never managed to allocate
space for it. However, Sacha's remark prompts me to mention that I have a
singularly ugly tree (crab apple? bla bla paucifolia?), about 15 ft high by
10 ft wide. Is that suitable as a frame for a Kiftsgate?

I think you will need something like Sherwood Forest to accommodate it.

If not, is there another tough rambler which could inhabit it?

Rambling perpetuals, Hamburg, New Dawn, Phyllis Bide, Blaze.

I could find a list of other ramblers, but don't forget that a lot of
them are rather subject to mildew.

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