On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:02:33 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On 18 Jan 2004 04:37:13 GMT, (Frank White)
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:28:29 GMT, Alan Connor wrote:



In North America at present, including Canada, there are about 500,000
square
miles of mountain forests that are removed from major population centers
and in a climate that is cold-temperate or better.

Assuming 300,000,000 people in the U.S. and Canada, and that 5% of those
people can make it to, or are already in, the Rockies (etc.), that gives
these
areas a post-Collapse population density of approximately 30 people per
square mile, or about 20 acres apiece, back-to-back.

(your neighbor will be able to hit your house with a thrown rock from
their
front porch)


(these areas include a lot of grasslands, too, but are predominantly
forested)


In these conditions, only a survival group that can remain inconspicuous
will
have a chance of avoiding continual battles with refugees or roving
bandits,
or continually running from them, and the only way to accomplish this is
to
have a plant-based lifestyle.



If you HAVE to run, then you had better know your wild edible plants, of
which there are more than 1800 species in North America, because trapping
and hunting will SERIOUSLY slow you down...


AC

Why would a live by the skin of your teeth existence be preferable to
staying in your own neighborhood or town and working together with your
neighbors and friends?

alanc is obsessed with the idea of running for the hills and living
off the land. In fact he's claimed that's what he and an unspecified
group have already done, setting up a defensive parameter that
includes boobytraps and poison gas generators, as well as trying
to drive any neighbors away by poisoning their water and killing their
animals.

There are doubts as to his sanity...

Doubts? Doubts? The dude is a ****ing loon. A Walter Mitty consumed
by the Tarnsman of Gor books.

Oddly enough, I'm watcing The Secret Life of Walter Mitty right now.
Hipockita, hipockita (sp?).
Sue