No I don't think it is or that it isn't. I was simply responding to
someone's bafflement that for a survivalist room no one seems interested in
the issue of the collapse of civilization. My statement was that the post
was crossposted to rooms that were not of that ilk.

In response to the issue - I'm not so sure we are civilized. You are
talking about a country that executes mentally retarded humans, imprisons
children (and executes them), wants to teach the bible as science, crows
about being religous and loving G~d while painting graffiti over G~d's
creation and strutting about glorifying man's creations over that of G~d
(ugly sentence)...

There is a prayer (I'm really not into prayers in general since to me waving
the flag or your religion in public is like making out on Main Street
but...) the prayer says basically to work to change for the better that
which you can, not to be brought down by those things you cannot change and
to have the sense to know the difference. Humans (well all living things)
adapt. If civilization collapses, those who adapt may survive. I may be a
survivor, I may not be. I'm not going to ruin my life living it for the
worse possible outcome.

I wouldn't respond at all to this but I'm snow bound and bored.... and I
like science fiction/fantasy DKat


"Alan Connor" wrote in message
link.net...
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 00:42:04 GMT, D Kat wrote:


Take a look where this has been cross posted... Many of us in
rec.gardens
and probably every room EXCEPT for survivalism are not all that in to
planning for the end of civilization. We are having way too much fun in
our
gardens and doing what we do. Now if you want a hot debate that will
cross
all rooms and have everyone ticked off even at themselves bring up....
NO...
I learned my lesson... I'm NOT going to go there.... Sighhhh, it
passed.
All is good.

DKat


I too love gardening.


So you think that just because you aren't into planning for the end of
your
civilization that it isn't going to happen?

:-)


What's going on is being called the Great Recession. Unlike in the Great
Depression, ailing companies can use cheap labor, and markets, overseas,
and it
is only the Middle Class that are dying.

(Notice that the value of the Euro is so high that along with terrorism
fears
it has largely killed international tourism in the U.S. Care to guess how
many Middle-Class folks lost and are losing their jobs because of this?
And
it is not going to get better. Quite the opposite. Inflation is going to
continue at the same alarming pace. Soon you will not be able to afford a
car.)

As it progresses, you will, if you have any brains at all, change your
mind.


AC