Again, I wasn't complaining about the cross posting. Just commenting (again
because I'm bored and looking to ramble) to the comment about the curiousity
of survivalist not wanting to respond to the actual topic - I said that is
because it is being posted in rooms that are not survivalist.... DK
"Sue" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 00:42:04 GMT, "D Kat" wrote:

Take a look where this has been cross posted... Many of us in rec.gardens
and probably every room EXCEPT for survivalism are not all that in to
planning for the end of civilization. We are having way too much fun in
our
gardens and doing what we do. Now if you want a hot debate that will
cross
all rooms and have everyone ticked off even at themselves bring up....
NO...
I learned my lesson... I'm NOT going to go there.... Sighhhh, it passed.
All is good.

DKat

Sorry, I just made another post on this thread and didn't remove any
of the other groups. Actually, as far as a can tell, Alan is the only
one of the regular posters *convinced* that the end of civilization is
coming soon. Everyone else, I believe, just uses TEOTWAWKI scenarios
for mental excercises.
Sue - not deleting your group because this is addressed to you


"Alan Connor" wrote in message
hlink.net...
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 06:57:27 -0500, wrote:



"Alan Connor" wrote in message
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:25:02 -0500, Peter H
wrote:


Condor Chef wrote:

What people forget is that a rock is not a football, or a
baseball,
or a
grenade.



Footballs & baseballs have already been covered by this thread &
even
by
professional throwers found quite wanting. And, should you be able
to
throw a hand grenade 100 yards or better, it would explode before
landing, pretty well obviating the reason for throwing one in the
first
place. It's simply not a feasible feat. Any rock you might throw
(by
hand, but I most seriously doubt it) 100 yards would not be an
effective
weapon.

Someone around here needs to look up "figure of speech".


*I* certainly didn't even imply that anyone would try to throw a
rock
for
an 1/8 of a mile as a weapon.

No, but now you've implied that there are 800 yards to a mile.



Seems like folks here, on a group *allegedly* focussed on survivalism,
prefer to avoid talking about the probable collapse of their
civilization.

Pretty funny.

But understandable. They think that they only way people can have a
decent
life is to live as they do now, or how their ancestors lived.

Which is bizarre, considering that by any rational standards, the
quality-
of-life in America just plain stinks.

And their fool ancestors wiped out people who had a significantly
superior
culture.

What they need to face is the fact that ALL totalitarian regimes
control
the
people by controlling the history books.

The Soviets also called their country "The Greatest Country on Earth"
and
had libraries full of books that "proved" this "fact".

America isnt even anywhere near the top, even by its own standards.

37th in health care, 14th in longevity.

See trendsresearch.com

And even the lifestyle of the Europeans is based upon exploiting the
lands
and lives of people in the "3rd World", and those folks are purely fed
up
it.

Industrial-Capitalism is simple too destructive of the land and
non-member
populations to continue for long.


AC