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23-01-2004, 05:37 AM

In article k.net,
says...

On 21 Jan 2004 15:22:38 GMT, Frank White wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 06:28:34 GMT, Alan Connor wrote:

(snip)
CO in an open area is NEVER lethal. Do your homework and quit telling
falsehoods.

CO in an open area is also hard to control. How do you control the
concentration
enough to make sure it's effective? Must be magic.

You see, this is the problem I have with alanc's claim, here. I
send a lot of time around CO producers: They're called 'cars',
and I have walked beside them, driven in them, and been stuck
in traffic jams surrounded by dozens of them all running and
putting out CO. And aside from gagging over diesel fumes, or
being rocked back by the stink some of them produce when they
burn bad gas, I've never passed out or been unable to breathe.
Heck, I've worked in garages where the air was BLUE with exhaust;
and although it gave me a headache, it didn't incapacitate me.

Except that I was talking about an "exhaust" putting out pure CO
(woodgas) rather than almost pure C02 with traces of C0, which is what cars
and such do.

OK, I lack any knowledge of the woodgas process, so I'll defer
to your statement as to its capacities.

But the symptomology is wrong. You said the hunter had
trouble breathing; but that's not what carbon monoxide
poisoning does. CO has EARNED its name of 'The Silent
Killer'; there's no obvious physical tip off that it's
killing you. Not sight nor smell nor asphixyation.
YOu WILL get a headache, nausea, dizziness, and a sense
of mental dullness increasing the longer you're exposed
to the gas, or the heavier the concentration of gas:
At 800 ppm, for instance, the symptoms will start in
45 minutes and you'll be dead after 3 hours. At 1600
pps it starts in 20 minutes and you're dead 40 minutes
after that. At 6400 the pain starts in 2 minutes and
you fall down go boom die in 10-15.

This is why I've got CO monitors - plural - in my
house. This stuff is NOTHING to fool around with.

FW