On 23 Jan 2004 03:55:23 -0800
LynyrdSky wrote:

Visiting a God Damn country is way diff that posting a god damn
picture here on the group. Do you honestly expect me to believe that
a picture of 100k cosumes so much computer time? Give me a f'n break.

Usenet /is/ a new country, one populated by people you will most likely
never see, yet people none the less. It pays to learn the rules. A
whole lot of folks are on Usenet instead of the WWW because of
bandwidth restrictions, either due to their own ISPs or the speed of
their modems. Do not be so America-centric, most of the world does not
have our advantages in technology and are still using old 486s and
Pentiums on 4800-9600 modems. Lots of people pay by the /minute/ they
are online. I use a 56K modem, but my ISP doesn't devote many resources
to Usenet. Therefore these groups download /very/ slowly. The
connection does not depend solely upon the speed on my and your modems,
but upon the server speed and activity. It took about three minutes to
DL your /first/ picture, the only one I did DL. I wonder what that
would have cost me were I in Indonesia or Bosnia?

(BTW, cursing does /not/ help your case.)

If you did not want to see it then
don't open the thread in the first place. You have the right not to
click on the attachment just as you have the right not to chose to
watch a violent movie on the tube. It bugs the shit out of me in our
society today that people have to be politically correct correct
everywhere they turn as to not, heaven forbid, offend anyone.
Following your slow connection theory must mean you never view a
website up at all, because heaven forbid they use pictures.

There's a big difference between doing your 'own thing' and crapping in
someone's living room. Which do you think you did? Understand that,
for some here, rec.ponds is the only outlet they have for social
contact, their living room, if you will. Understand, also, that
rec.ponds is a somewhat special case because there are some pretty
tech /NON/-savvy folks here who's interests are in ponds, not mail
clients, and who wouldn't know a Bozo file if it fell into their water.
We love them anyway.

How about kill filters? Have you heard of these to filter out all
attachments? Large inage files? What are you on dope, or a 14.4 modem?
Don't give me the
crap about using up space, I use newguy and they have posts in this
group that date back to sept 25. As far as posting a pic on another
group I hope it is a correct group. As far as flaming me I am scared

Are you saying we should have added you to our Bozo files when we first
saw your name in the lists? Possibly a solution, yes, but a drastic one
that most here will never do since they are nice people and tend to put
up with bad behavior. Speaking of Newsguy, added down below is a little
snipping from Newsguy's service policy. Peruse it and you will see that
what I originally said is true, they frown upon the posting of binaries
in a text-only group and have the right to cancel your account.
OTOH, it's easy to find groups where binaries are acceptable. Try any
of the groups in the alt.binaries.* hierarchy.

Yes it is my fault that I posted the pictures here without seeking
knowledge about the group first but are there specific rules written
for this group and which rules do I follow, Ah the general rule of
netiquette, right up there on the shelf next to the general rule of
thumb book. Look around at the groups that are downloading illegal
materials, how many gigabytes of copyrighted material are moved in
these groups day after day? You speak to me about rules and laws
when, when millions of dollars are stolen from hard working people
every day here on the same system you support and try to follow rules.

Well, I guess that, since /some/ people rape and kill, even though it's
against the rules, you should be able to do so, too, without anyone
bothering your placid state of mind about it? Come on.

Now my
ISP will ban me from the internet for uploading a few pictures, MINE,
when the whole system of theirs is use to hop illegal copies thru.
Sounds like a weak case at best. At worst they would never ban me for
that maybe issue a warning telling me not to abuse the group again.

As far as flames go, flame away.

I don't think you have been flamed, merely advised as to the
undesirability of doing as you had already done. You seemed to be
pretty annoyed with me, yet all I did was to give you a couple of facts.
I think a mature, well-adjusted response would have been, "OK, I didn't
know, and surely don't want to alienate any potential customers, so
won't you please visit my website where I have several pictures
available of my product (which /is/ on topic, BTW).

OTOH, your responding with vituperation and cursing has very likely
limited your ability to make sales in here. Too bad, as you do have
decent products.

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