"Jack Hammer" wrote in message
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 13:47:21 -0000, "Mary Fisher"
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"Jack Hammer" wrote in message
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:14:03 +0100, martin wrote:

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:10:32 -0000, "Mary Fisher"
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"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in
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Warfarin-based poisons are not particularly unpleasant. The victims
just
get weaker and weaker and lapse into a coma.

The Warfarin tends to prevent the blood clotting, and the passage
of
food down the gut abrades the villi (a design feature to allow
nutrients
to be absorbed through the walls of the blood vessels) and the
animal
loses blood internally, and weakens and dies. There is no pain
involved.

How do you know?

because it's used in humans as an anti clotting agent.

The village idiot mentality is astounding!

That sounds like the voice of experience.

Using a substance medicinally is not the same as using it to kill. If you
fed enough Warfarin to a human to kill him would it cause pain?

Yes. It is a slow and agonizing death, rat or man would bleed to death
from the inside.

You are not speaking from experience at all. I am, in another thread. A
brief summary here is that you feel no physical pain before going into a
coma,
after which you feel neither physical nor mental pain.

The fact that very minute doses of poison are used
very successfully in medicine has nothing to do with it's use to kill
something.

The medicinal doses are not all that small. The clinical limits when
judging the correct dose is that the blood clotting time must stabilise at
somewhere between 2 and 4 times the clotting time for a normal person. This
is a bloody (literally) bind, as it makes even the removal of a tooth a
major operation.

Franz