On 2/24/04 8:41 AM, in article MvI_b.380333$I06.4154991@attbi_s01, "Pam -
gardengal" wrote:


"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
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I grow most of those - the Achillea comes closest in terms of shape and a
hint of winter interest, but it just isn't tall enough. Agastache doesn't
survive here (the only people I know that have any luck with it either let
it reseed it self or it is sheltered).

I want TALL - 4 foot plus and some hint of four season interest -
interesting foliage, color, seed heads.

Thank you for you thoughts,
Cheryl

Cheryl, you are just not going to get a full 4 seasons of interest from a
perennial, unless it is an evergreen one and I can't think of any that would
reach the size you want. Certainly, some form of shrub could work for you,
but I'd consider a late season tall growing perennial. Rudbeckia maxima will
reach an impressive height and offers the same bright yellow coneflowers and
seedheads into autumn and winter that its shorter cousin does. Eupatorium
maculatum 'Gateway' is another good choce or any of the perennial sunflowers
or Helenium. All are great in combination with grasses and enjoy the same
conditions. All hardy to at least zone 4.

pam - gardengal




One of the reasons I was looking for something "sedum-like" was I truly find
4 seasons of interest. In the spring, I love to see the "nest" of new shoots
and the color of the early growth. ( I know I only see this while cleaning
up, but it is an important joy.)

What I want most is a fall and winter statement. Seed heads, foliage and
something out of the ordinary.

I grow all of the above in your list - I love the Rudbeckia maxima, but not
for this spot. I have a "Chocolate" Eupatorium in the bed - it makes a nice
transition down to the coral bells which are nearly evergreen.



I know there was Sedum "Indian Chief" on the market at one time - it was
billed at 45 inches tall, but every time I got it, never got that tall.


Cheryl