"Janet Baraclough .." wrote in
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Quote from start of thread: The Proponent is Gary Poston
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PROPONENT's Summary of Discussion

I've not taken part in the discussion but monitored it and think I
can win. On monitoring the threads for the last 10 days and come to
a conclusion that I expect to have at least 12 more yes votes than
no votes.

"Some" people are still against the formation of
uk.rec.gardening.allotments. "Most" believe that "Allotments" are a
total different issue to "Gardening" for example; Allotments are
"plots of land" not your common house "garden".

People with Allotments are more likely to use uk.rec.gardening.allotments
because this will be more common to them and would cut bandwidth with
regards to uk.rec.gardening general gardening threads. A lot of people
are in favour of an uk.rec.gardening.allotments newsgroup, a select
few "beg to differ" or are in two minds which way to vote.

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That "summary" does not tally with my reading of the discussion either
here or in unnc.
For instance, I saw nothing in the public discussion to support the
claim that (of the people who took part),

"Most" believe allotments are a total different issue to gardening"
(sic).

At best that is a total misinterpretation of the views I saw. At worst, it
is a lie in order to drum up support for his breakaway ng.

Urglers should note Gary's final para about "cutting bandwidth to urg
general gardening threads". In other words his stated aim and intention
is that his new group will reduce the number of postings to urg on a
topic that has often enriched urg gardening discussions in the past.

Is that good for uk.rec.gardening? I beg to differ.

In any case Gary is wrong about reducing the bandwidth usage, since it is
certain that the vast bulk of the threads in the new ng will be crossposted
to urg, for the sake of getting a reasonable participation rate.

I urge all urglers to take the trouble to vote NO, as this is an entiely
disruptive piece of empire building.

Franz