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Old 26-02-2004, 12:19 AM
Anthony
 
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Default 1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments


"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
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So he did in fact say that QUOTE "Most" believe that "Allotments" are a
total different issue to "Gardening" UNQUOTE.


Yes but it WASN'T the FULL QUOTE, which affected its meaning.

Ah, so is his intent just to split urg, thereby being the opposite of

"good
for URG"


Where does he say he wants to split urg? The actual quote please.
What realistically do you think the harm would be?


That is total rubbish. Please familiarise yourself with urg's charter and
understand it before talking such nonsense.


Again, Quote to me where in the charter of urg. it specifies the discussion
of allotments.
If it not specified it is strictly speaking OFF topic.
I have read the charter, have you? Can you find it?

on another group, where people can talk vegetables, sheds and
planning to their
hearts content.


Urglers are in fact this very minute discussing "sheds and planning to
their hearts content."
Please look at the list of current threads.


What? Just started one have you?

I leave it for others to decide for themselves whether that last paragraph
spells out a case for splitting a very active group just to satisfy the

whim
of a person, or small coterie of folk who have never tried to participate

in
the existing group.

Its not for me to spell out the case for the formation for the new group.
But I cannot for the life of me understand why you would want to oppose just
because
the proposer hasn't posted enough to urg in the past, or has chosen to
remain on the sidelines.
The bandwidth issue has been spouted but no evidence has been given to prove
that more space
would be taken up by the new group. Time and again, you Franz, have stated
that all posts to the
proposed group would be crossposted, again without a shread of evidence
being cited.
Many reasons therefore against the motion with a distinct lack of evidence.
The proposer has been accused of 'Empire Building', I personally think that
some people are
frightened that their own 'little empire' may be under threat in some way.
Still we can agree to differ can't we Franz. You vote your way, I'll vote
mine.

Anthony