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Old 27-02-2004, 11:28 AM
Jack Hammer
 
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Default 1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 23:21:42 -0000, "Anthony"
wrote:


"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
...
Yes but it WASN'T the FULL QUOTE, which affected its meaning.


Who do you think you are bluffing? I have just looked again at the

original
and it is clear that my quotation conveys the sense of the original.

It wasn't YOUR quotation, it belonged to Janet, whom I replied to.
Having trouble following the thread Franz?
Taking credit for something written by another, theres a name for that!

Ah, so is his intent just to split urg, thereby being the opposite of
"good
for URG"

Where does he say he wants to split urg? The actual quote please.
What realistically do you think the harm would be?


Where did I say that he *said* he wants to split urg?
I *deduced* that he wants to split urg. Why else would he be proposing a
new group when in fact there are allotmenteers happily contributing to

urg?
The proposer has not once tried to raise matters of interest to
allotmenteers in urg. Indeed, it seems that he has never even lurked in
urg, otherwise he would have been aware that allotment issues *are* in

fact
discussed there.


You are making it up as you go along! How on earth can you know that someone
has not 'lurked' in a group?
That is the most stupid remark you have made so far...................

That is total rubbish. Please familiarise yourself with urg's charter

and
understand it before talking such nonsense.

Again, Quote to me where in the charter of urg. it specifies the

discussion
of allotments.


Are you really as silly as you come across? The charter does not say
anywhere that growing lavender bushes or raising half hardy seedlings are
suitable topics for discussion in urg either. So, are we supposed to

avert
our eyes when those topics crop up?


Not covered under 'flowers or shrubs' then?
Wow, no wonder you subscribe to this group, your gardening knowledge is very
poor.
Now tell me what allotments would come under the heading of?


How gripping.


If it not specified it is strictly speaking OFF topic.
I have read the charter, have you? Can you find it?

on another group, where people can talk vegetables, sheds and
planning to their
hearts content.

Urglers are in fact this very minute discussing "sheds and planning

to
their hearts content."
Please look at the list of current threads.

What? Just started one have you?


You are obviously quite unfamiliar with the contents of urg in the past

and
now. That does not put you in a good position for defending the setting

up
of a breakaway group.


Use Google, I know how long you have been posting.


I bet that scares him.

I leave it for others to decide for themselves whether that last

paragraph
spells out a case for splitting a very active group just to satisfy

the
whim
of a person, or small coterie of folk who have never tried to

participate
in
the existing group.

Its not for me to spell out the case for the formation for the new

group.

Why have you then written this particular note?

But I cannot for the life of me understand why you would want to oppose

just
because
the proposer hasn't posted enough to urg in the past, or has chosen to
remain on the sidelines.


Snip an attempted insult .


******, snip that then! lol

The bandwidth issue has been spouted but no evidence has been given to

prove
that more space
would be taken up by the new group. Time and again, you Franz, have

stated
that all posts to the
proposed group would be crossposted, again without a shread of evidence
being cited.


You are being even more silly than you are. How on earth can evidence

have
accrued for an event in the future?


It was your argument Franz, how soon you forget. Use google to check what
you have posted in the past if your memory is failing.


All that shows us is you lied about where you live and you are a
coward, what have we missed?

But for a somewhat analogous case, look at what happened in uk.rec.audio
when uk.rec.audio.vinyl and uk.rec.audio.car were spawned.

Many reasons therefore against the motion with a distinct lack of

evidence.

You are being needlessly repetitive.

The proposer has been accused of 'Empire Building', I personally think

that
some people are
frightened that their own 'little empire' may be under threat in some

way.
Still we can agree to differ can't we Franz. You vote your way, I'll

vote
mine.


Of course. Why did you bother to post?


Why did you waste bandwidth replying?


Shut the **** up you whinging troll and take your bottlejob lifestyle
elsewhere.